Talk:L. Shankar

Incorrect Ken Parker link
The Ken Parker link is wrong (ie not the italian comic book character but should be the inventor/maker of the Fly guitar).

Gingger's connection to Shankar / Subramaniam
Where is the proof that Gingger is L Shankar's niece? There are articles claiming she is his niece e.g. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070301/news_lz1w01god.html as well as articles claiming she is his "companion" and that they met in Spain e.g. http://www.the-south-asian.com/May2004/lshankarmusic.htm. There is no mention of her on the website "family" page of L Subramaniam (supposedly her father) http://www.indianviolin.com/family.htm


 * You are right that. And as per Wikipedia's policy Citing_sources, I am removing the reference to Gingger being Shankar's niece. -- Thaths 03:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I posted the original question about her ambiguous relationship - but here Gingger confirms being L Subramaniam's daughter (and L Shankar's niece) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Kolkata/I_had_to_impress_my_dad_/articleshow/2104394.cms so I am reinstating the reference to her as his niece Pklala


 * Isn't there a family scandal involving L and Gingger? (i.e. along the lines of Woody Allen and Soon-Yi.) Or is that just gossip? It would explain some of the reluctance of her father to mention her on the family page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.203.181.10 (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It is much more complex than that. First off, uncles marrying nieces was (still is?) a common practice among some Tamil people. Gingger was born to Subramaniam from his first marriage. The singer Kavitha Krishnamurthy is Subramaniam's second wife. There is no reference to any of this complexity in the family page. -- Thaths (talk) 23:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I just came across this video where Gingger narrates a part of her life. The video confirms that Gingger is, indeed, L. Subramaniam's daughter (and Shankar's niece). It is implied, but not explicitly stated, in the that video that Gingger gets her last name from her monther's side of the family (the Shankar's as in Ravi Shankar and Uday Shankar). There seems to be a serious rift between Subramaniam and Gingger. No sign that Shankar has anything to do about the rift. Thaths (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Shenkar
Although his PR guy, Nighttrippa, did not follow the rules and standards, and posted more of an advertisement then anything else, it was correct that "L. Shankar" now goes by the name "Shenkar", as seen in the credits of latter episodes of Heroes. -Lөvөl 07:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thankt to that PR guy, Shenkar is now salted. I have requested unprotection so it can be redirected. --Edokter (Talk) 12:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

name conflict
Shenkar College of Engineering and Design in Israel is also referred to as "Shenkar" alone. I suggest that Shenkar should go to a disambiguation page. Coughinink 02:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have created a Shenkar (disambiguation) page and added links to and from it in both entries. As for whether Shenkar should go directly to a disambiguation page, I would like to hear from other editors of this page. -- Thaths 20:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss major changes before making them
Please discuss major changes you intend to make (e.g., moving the page to Shenkar and making this page a redirect to it) here and get some sort of feedback / consensus from watchers of this page before you actually make them.

-- Thaths (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Are there any "watchers of this page"? (The last edit goes back to 2012.) "Reggae" needs to be added as an L Shenkar genre. Eg. "Knee- deep in heaters" on the album "Touch me there".

Suggested split of discography
Considering how prolificlly Shenkar has been, I would like to suggest that his dicography should be split into a new article, only keeping his solo albums listed on the mian article and a more comprohensive list of recordings, chart postions etc in the discography article. Roger Workman (talk) 19:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I support such a split. -- Thaths (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I definitely agree. - TheSlowLife (talk) 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Article tags added for major problems
Three article tags were placed, because it lacks most needed sources (only a few sources appear for many of the non-common knowledge factual statements), and there are weasel words in almost every paragraph, indicating a non-neutral POV. 19:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.210.154.39 (talk)
 * Where the edit summary for the tags reads "coerced" it means "sourced"—the article is only sparsely sourced (has a lot of plagiarized material). 73.210.154.39 (talk) 19:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Example of deep sourcing issues of article
Here is some before and after text from the article, showing how facts appear that are unsourced, while others appear that are mis-sourced.

HOW ORIGINALLY CITED SOURCE MATERIAL READS: "Quote: "Capable of humming complex lines from ancient Indian compositions by the age of three, he began studying the violin two years later and performed his first public concert at a temple in Ceylon, at the age of seven.""

HOW ARTICLE USED TO READ (SOURCES MIS-USED): "Shankar began singing at the age of two, playing violin at the age of five, and learning to play drums at seven. At the age of seven L. Shankar gave his first public concert, at the Nallur Kandaswamy temple."

ARTICLE NOW READS (SOURCES CORRECTED AND USED ACCURATELY): "Shankar was "[c]apable of humming complex lines from accent Indian compositions" when he was three years of age, and two years later began his study of the violin. He is said to have learned to play drums at the age of seven. At the age of seven, Shankar gave his first public concert, at a Ceylonese temple, at Nallur Kandaswarmy."

The article demands expert attention. 73.210.154.39 (talk) 19:58, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, sir! LOL

Further addressed plagiarism
Please see the two long quotes that now appear in the Career section, which, apart from having misplaced citations covering more or less material than is accurate, these two blocks of text were too near to being exact to qualify as a close paraphrase, and so appear here as quotes, with the prose introduction and the placement of the inline citation making clear their source (and other adjacent material not from this source, confounded earlier, now appearing with a tag). Cheers. 73.210.154.39 (talk) 06:28, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The quotation at the end of the Early life section, reading (before and after editing) "He gained considerable reputation in his early youth as an accompanist to some of the most eminent names in Carnatic music" is now attributed to the source from which it was plagiarized, Dongre at Hinduism Today, as was the further opening sentence of the next section, regarding his BS in India and his PhD at Wesleyan. 73.210.154.39 (talk) 06:55, 5 November 2015 (UTC)