Talk:LBi/archive 1

I think this company might be notable. See the following news articles: . I also removed some of the more advertisy sections. — Ksero 16:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:COI apparent because of User:LBigroup. He really should at least stop editing the article completely. Scar ian  Talk  16:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "Editors who may have a conflict of interest are not barred from participating in articles and discussion of articles where they have a conflict of interest" — Ksero 16:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

My interpretation of it is: The said user should not edit an article with which he is directly/indirectly involved in. Instead he should request for something to be edited on the article's discussion page. Do you get where I am coming from, buddy? Scar ian Talk  16:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This article has no assertion of notability, and provides no sources. It's gonna get deleted unless these issues are addressed. the_undertow talk  01:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:CSD request
I rejected this request because in its current state the article content simply is not blatant advertising under WP:CSD G11. It is a brief and relatively modest description of the company. The article asserts notability and the company appears to be of sufficient size and scope that it is not obviously non-notable. Speedy deletion is not the appropriate avenue in such cases, please use WP:AFD to determine if the article should be deleted. --Shirahadasha 03:13, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you cite what you find to be the assertion of notability? the_undertow talk  03:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The article was blatant advertising at some point. And yes, I find the assertion of notability strange - surely if it is that big a company someone would've already added it to Wikipedia? Scar ian Talk  09:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

History
Hi - I'm not going to get too involved as I currently work for LBi, however I thought some background might be useful. Have a look at Michiel Mol - there's an empty link on Lost Boys (company), which is (unofficially, I think) the LB of LBi. (I would edit Lost Boys (company) and set it as a redirect to LBi, but ...)

In addition to the two companies mentioned on Michiel Mol, LBi has also merged a number of other companies, such as Oyster Partners, Framfab and Aspect Group who are independently linked to F1, having developed the F1 website & Internet live-timing system.

In terms of whether the company is notable or not, it's roughly equivalent to a company such as AKQA, which has an entry. As a brand, it's still very young - people who are unconnected with the company would be more likely to create pages for prior brands/company names.

I fully accept the conflict of interest remark, however I personally believe that it's better for a company to start an article like this openly rather than have someone apparently unconnected make changes. At least, then, it's easy to see which edits need the most critical review. Foddy 09:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The content of the article as it currently stands does not appear to breach guidelines, being a factual, correctly referenced article on a notable company. I am therefore unclear as to the justification for the conflict tag now that the offending promotional text has been removed. --Gilgongo 13:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Duly noted and removed. Employee's or people related to the firm, in any way, are requested to ask for improvements or major changes through the article's discussion page. Hooah. Scar ian  Talk  13:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)