Talk:LED incapacitator

Reference to Cluster Headaches
The use of "cluster headaches" is an inaccurate term when describing something that more closely resembles a migrane rather than a cluster headache. If this incapacitator actually induced cluster headaches it should be deemed illegal to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.248.236.203 (talk) 16:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Non-Encyclopaedic
"But there is recent controversy, especially coming from online contributors and bloggers, where they state that the weapon is truly a fad for law enforcement men/women, and that they use the weapon as a toy.

If the weapon is seen as a fad, well then it is being improperly operated and is prone to causing bodily injury to the opponent, even death, if the light is to be flashed at someone whom is driving (police pursuit) and then fatally crashes."

This seems really unprofessional and totally POV. I'm going to cut it from the article unless someone can supply citations or (and I doubt this) reword it so it doesn't seem like a juvenile argument between two different contributors. Additionally, it takes a lot less than some fancy LED to blind a driver. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.199.244.100 (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

This should not be deleted.
This received widespread media attention. It should not be deleted. Grundle2600 06:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to agree that it shouldn't be speedily deleted. It's verifiable, and most certainly is not the blatant advertising that the nominator claims it is. It deffinitly needs work, but that's not to say it needs to be speedied. --YbborTalk 13:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I have significantly expanded this, adding proper references to the web stories already cited, and citing 5 additional sources from a google news search. I think it is celarly not in the speedy category now -- the only possible question is long-term notability. DES (talk) 16:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I apologize, you guys have done a great job getting this article to a status that is worth while on Wikipedia. At first, it looked like some single product from a company that was merly an advertisement, but you guys have shown that it is a valid article. DES may be correct in that perhaps if it does not continue to get widespread media attention that it could possibly get deleted in the future, but for now it looks fine. Thanks for all your help. --Pilotboi / talk / contribs 18:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's OK. Every article starts out short. Then lots of people get to have fun adding to it! Grundle2600 19:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Reorganizing LED-related pages

 * There are 23 different LED-related pages, and I think there should be less than half that many. I've started a discussion on this at Talk:Light-emitting_diode; please come and join in. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If there are 23 very distinct types of LED devices, there will have to be an article about each. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Increasing Intracranial Pressure??
As many of you may remember, Dr. Carl Sagan famously said that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I find the claim that this light can increase intracranial pressure to be more than extraordinary. All of the sources cited for this article are news articles - and even if one of them makes this claim (I have read three of them so far, none of which said anything about increasing intracranial pressure,) for a claim such as this I would feel much more comfortable with it being true if a peer-reviewed study or at least a document released by the military stating this as fact was cited as a reference. I mean, how would one know that this light caused increased intracranial pressure anyway? It's a rather invasive procedure to measure intracranial pressure. Also, over the short duration of time that this incapacitating "weapon" is used, it simply seems, well, extraordinary that it could cause an increase in intraocular pressure, much less intracranial pressure. I hope someone can either validate this incredible claim or - more likely - invalidate it. Spiral5800 (talk) 13:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

This article is in desperate need of an update or rewrite
The "criticism" part of this article features a very obtuse opinion from some random guy who has nothing to do with the LEDI. I'm sure there are more valid and potentially scientific criticisms of this device were this article to receive a revamp. You'd be surprised how many people reach this article as a result of police-related TV shows. It'd also be best to reevaluate the validity of certain sources. This entry is non-encyclopedic in my eyes. 72.160.12.39 (talk) 06:40, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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Led incapacitor
How to stop this when in the wrong hands 71.211.52.190 (talk) 21:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Just make sure you go to lots of hardcore techno music clubs with really aggressive lightshows. I don't think the LED incapacitator could compete. &mdash; The Anome (talk) 19:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)