Talk:LGBT culture in Portland, Oregon

Hot Flash Dances Portland Inferno
Transferred here from the article for future reference, source finding and formatting: -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hot Flash Dances Portland Inferno, a dance exclusively for women and the trans community. The dances are held a couple time a month. They start early at 6pm. Low cover charge. The DJ plays fun dance music. The DJ takes requests for songs. http://www.hotflashdances.com/

Topics
Here's a list of topics and/or possible articles to create:

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Darcelle XV Showplace, currently redirects to Darcelle XV ✅
 * Portland Gay Liberation Front, Oregon’s first gay political organization (1970)
 * Gay and Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest (GLAPN) ✅
 * Second Foundation (Oregon), first gay community center in Oregon (May 7, 1972), redirected to LGBT culture in Portland, Oregon
 * The Fountain (newspaper), Oregon’s first gay newspaper (1971)
 * Hobo's (link) ✅
 * Crush (nightclub), or Crush (bar) ✅ (see Crush Bar)
 * Joq's or Joq's Tavern or Sullivan's Gulch Bar & Grill/Sullivan's Gulch Bar and Grill, all redirected to LGBT culture in Portland, Oregon
 * The Fox and Hound
 * Casey's (gay bar) ✅, but redirected to LGBT culture in Portland, Oregon
 * Local Lounge ✅
 * Rose City Gay Freedom Band
 * Old Wives' Tales?

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The Escape (nightclub), all-ages LGBTQ nightclub ✅
 * The Other Inn, first leather bar, 1964-1982
 * Badlands (Portland, Oregon)‎, currently redirects to Embers Avenue

Source re: lesbian culture and history

 * http://www.wweek.com/culture/2016/11/30/who-crushed-the-lesbian-bars-a-new-minefield-of-sexual-politics/ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:17, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

The Bathhouse
Re: Huh? ( Another Believer ) Wikipedia frowns on phrases that are likely to be outdated, like "the present." Please see MOS:DATED. All I'm asking for is a WP:Cite that explains the date range. Something like, "since 2003, blah blah blah." with a citation, as required by WP policy. Thanks. GetSomeUtah (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Oregon Bears
Please explain why you're attempting to remove mention of the Oregon Bears from this page. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You're plastering on things that are of anything remotely LGBT, including clearly non-notable organization. Wikipedia isn't for a simple list  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graywalls (talk • contribs) 18:00, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Once again we're in disagreement. Care to find a third opinion? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I would support the inclusion of Oregon Bears on the page. It's sourced, and its not "remotely LGBT" - it's a gay group in PDX. Mention in this article is appropriate. --Kbabej (talk) 19:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've added mention back with the two below sources as citations. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:56, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Sources: --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.wweek.com/portland/article-7870-bear-trap.html
 * https://www.portlandmercury.com/news/the-masculine-mystique/Content?oid=33884


 * I see no reasonable argument to keep mention of Oregon Bears off this page. The 20+ year NPO organizes large-scale events and represents a viable and visible sub-culture of Portland, and should be noted for posterity. I would venture to guess that media seems lacking, and that may be due to the fact that both LGBT newspapers shut down, in 2013 and 2017... Just Out, and PQ Monthly. Even the gay newsy websites seemed to be going down when I still lived there, which is thought to reflect the overall mainstreaming of LGBT culture in Portland (same reason there's no longer a lesbian bar in a notable LGBT city). Now I'm wondering why I also see no mention of another NPO (that likely intersects with the Bears), Portland Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (http://portlandsisters.org/), a chapter of Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. They are why I know of any of this... when you first see a group of big bears elaborately dressed as nuns running security for a major event, well, you just have to talk with them and find out more, right? I would like to add that the NPO Oregon Bears is much more significant than, say, Hotflash inferno dances, which is listed here, though is but a monthly for-profit dance party for women run by one couple (who bought the company from their bosses, another couple, the founders, who were retiring).AHampton (talk) 19:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Yes! The Sisters are pictured in the Starky's article and should definitely be mentioned here as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Oregon Bears was redirected to this article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Pivot
Reminder: Add info about Pivot. This might interest you as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:58, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

City Nightclub
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.wweek.com/music/2014/08/26/in-the-city/

"The disappearance of queer spaces in Portland"
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:55, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/06/the-disappearance-of-queer-spaces-in-portland/

Other events
Some other events to consider mentioning, if sourcing allows:
 * DaddyBone
 * Pants Off Dance Off
 * Lumbertwink
 * Bridge Club
 * Circuit Breaker
 * Switch

So I've heard...! :p --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:58, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

source

 * https://www.wweek.com/bars/2022/11/08/video-lounge-sissy-bar-and-crush-bars-rebranded-coffee-shop-opals-round-out-a-new-trinity-of-southeast-morrison-queer-bars/

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:02, 12 November 2022 (UTC)