Talk:LGBT topics and Taoism

issues
This argument has some serious issues. One thing that popped out for me was the description of the Zhuangzi and Dao De Jing as "The Taoist Holy Books". These two books are never given this honorific title in Daoism... if you want to talk about Daoist scriptures, you'll need to consider the Daozang as a whole, which goes far beyond these two books. TheEvilPanda (talk) 06:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: "Homosexuality on the other hand is the union of two yins or two yangs meaning that nothing is lost or gained."

Re:     "...nothing is lost or gained."

consider the following: "In the the above mentioned union of two yins or two yangs, the ability to naturally procreate Children is LOST, which is part of the Grand design and flow of the Dao." Working against the Grand design and flow of the Dao is unwise, and will result in frustration, at best, or other manifestations of negative "Karma." — Preceding unsigned comment added by TA0100 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Nothing being lost or gained sounds like perfect balance to me. 66.51.112.68 (talk) 03:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

clarity
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Have I made myself clear? There is more to yin than being biologically female, more to yang than being bilogically male. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.87.251.170 (talk • contribs)


 * Other religions sometimes assert that a homosexual, bisexual or androgynous person contains both the forces of male and female within them (i.e yin and yang) and is therefore complete person within themselves. Are there any similar views within taoism? Singlewordedpoem 06:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: "Other religions sometimes assert that a homosexual, bisexual or androgynous person contains both the forces of male and female within them (i.e yin and yang) and is therefore complete person within themselves. Are there any similar views within taoism?" Re: "Have I made myself clear? There is more to yin than being biologically female, more to yang than being bilogically male."

Every individual has yin and yang within them so they are complete and don't need another individual to supplement their practice. Everyone has masculine and feminine within them, not male and female. Males have masculine and feminine traits and females have masculine and feminine traits. Every physical object has yin and nature within them. Metal is hard to break but will rust when buried in soil, ceramics are easy to break but won't rust when buried in soil.

You also have to remember that the nature of yin and yang is expressed from the formless to the myriad of creations, from the invisible to the visible, and from the intangible to the tangible. Male and female are visible and tangible expressions (reproductive organs) of yin and yang respectively. You may say there are those are intersex, they're an anomaly, an exception to the rule. Anything that disrupts the balance of yin and yang is either evil or disharmonious. Male and male or female and female is not in harmony with yin and yang. Even if one of them is feminine and the other is masculine. The physical expression of yin and yang must also be harmonious.

heterosexuality
If traditional Taoists believe monks and nuns (who purportedly do not engage in sex) have the potential to become one with the Tao, then heterosexuality must not be a requirement to follow the Tao.Shedsan 15:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, for those traditions that have celibate religious communities, nuns and monks may be seen to be neither heterosexual nor homosexual. They aspire to transcend sexuality. A Taoist priest however is expected to contain their sexuality within marriage (=a monagamous heterosexual relationship). ntennis 02:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

homosexuality
In Taoism, homosexuality is never mentioned. However, different sects of Taoism may have different rules concerning homosexuality and the literature of some sects included homosexuality as one of the forms of sexual misconduct. However, homosexuality is not unknown in Taoist history, such as during the Tang dynasty when Taoist nuns exchanged love poems but this however would be breaking the precepts.

Written like an essay
This article is written like an essay. Could it not be pared down to the basics and merged back into taoism?Lotusduck 05:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think there is some interest from homosexual people to have a series of pages that deal specifically on how homosexuality is seen in the various religions. Hopefully in time this entry shall widen up.

Not complete
It should be noted that Taoist views also allow for men with considerable feminine energy and women with considerable masculine energy. As such, a woman with such masculine energy engaging in heterosexual intercourse would be harmful to the male. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.153.251 (talk) 01:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)