Talk:LJ Ross

Requested move 08 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 18:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Louise Ross → LJ Ross – Conventional to use an author's public pen name rather than personal name as page name. – JR3592 (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose - Per WP:COMMONNAME. 350 hits vs. 103. Is there a policy supporting use of an author's pen name instead of personal name as a page name? Meatsgains (talk) 04:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per WP:COMMONNAME. I don't like the google hits method (although it does count for something). For me, the key is how do the sources refer to her. Aside from those which are directly about her book, which of course use her pen name, those from independent reliable sources, use Louise, for the most part. Even in articles like that from the hexham-courant and Express North, they use both names, but clearly are talking about Louise, who writes under LJ. The article does need an edit to be consistent. However, I think that consistency will be achieved if it is simply edited for MOS standards, and only the last name is used throughout.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose if anything it would be L. J. Ross, www.ljrossauthor.com/ "L.J. Ross is the bestselling author of the DCI Ryan series of romantic suspense novels.." but it seems that Louise Ross is http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ponteland-lawyer-turned-author-swapping-10263722 attested and therefore we would use that name. Leone Ross also writes as L. J. Ross, and there's a third L J Ross in the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator article. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


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Self Published
The page at the moment doesn't mention that Ross has had all this success without a traditional publisher. As far as I can make out, her books are just self published and the physical paper copies are printed by Amazon. That seems extraordinary and worth talking about, if anyone knows the details. Cardinal Wurzel (talk) 18:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Pseudonym?
Is LJ Ross really a pseudonym for Louise Ross? thinks so; I am less sure. If Louise Ross were writing as Q Z Chaupington I could see it but LJ Ross seems a bit close to home. Best to all, DBaK (talk) 19:16, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , that's a good question. Much of my Wikipedia work in the last few years has focused on pre-20th-century women writers, and many of them disguised their identities in general, and gender in particular, by using initials instead of their given+middle names, or by totally changing their names, or not including a name at all. In this case -the biography of a modern-day woman writer- we don't know if the author's middle name start with a "J" (I checked the author's website and it's not addressed.). We can't assume that "J" is the first letter of the author's middle name -- it is possible that her middle name might start with another letter or maybe she doesn't have one. Ergo, I didn't feel it appropriate to assume that "LJ Ross" is a condensed version of her real name. This was my thought process before I added the two "pseudonym" categories. Rosiestep (talk) 21:03, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks and fair enough. I still don't think it is the most convincing bit of pseudonymery ever, compared to if she'd called herself say Baluji Shrivastav, but I do take your point, and I bow to your greatly superior experience in looking at and thinking about these matters, which I just do not have. So, having done my token bit of muttering and tyre-kicking, I think I will happily leave it alone now. Thank you very much for the civilized discussion. Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The "J" is for James, her husband; she has it because of his help. Claidheamhmor (talk) 06:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Ooops – unagreed move
I see that some time ago some swine moved this from Louise Ross to LJ Ross, without discussion, presumably (flaky memory here) because they had not seen the 2016 discussion above. Oops and sorry. Please feel free to reopen this – obviously I would not have just sailed on and done it irregardless [sic] if I had seen the 2016 one first. Gah! Apologies and best to all DBaK (talk) 19:23, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Pinging previous discussionists in an attempt to be fair:, , , , , sorry, whoops etc DBaK (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2021 (UTC)