Talk:LL Cool J/Archive 1

"diss"
LL Cool J Is Gay" is slang. Generally speaking this is one of the least professional pages I've ever seen on wikipedia. I would clean it up but I know nothing about LL Cool J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AXington (talk • contribs) 18:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

If I had the time, I could rewrite this very fairly and professionally. However, the need for citation dampens my enthusiasm to redo this article correctly...especially since a lot of what I would write would be knowledge I have gained over the years of just being a fan of LL and rap music in general. The thing is that it is hard to clean up a page that gets vandalizes so often because LL is a figure who, due to his long tenure, has garnered a lot of fans and a lot of opponents over the years. - pac1983

If LL Cool J was gay, he would be called GL Cool J (Gentlemen Love Cool J). GVnayR (talk) 04:13, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here is your trophy, sir. You have won. *presents trophy* Brakoholic (talk) 14:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

2nd Paragraph, Introduction
This paragraph sounds like the opening paragraph to a 3rd grader's biography report. I move to strike it from the record. All agreed, say 'aye'. Brakoholic (talk) 15:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Left Pant Leg
I don't see anywhere in the article about LL Cool J's signature of rolling up his left pant leg; where's the beef?!

Probably because it was gay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.157.47.105 (talk) 19:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

So gay that most rappers adopted the trend by 1997-98? Check your premises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.179.142.6 (talk) 03:55, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Cut Creator
I understand that Cut Creator was LL Cool J's DJ, but the article doesn't seem to mention him and he doesn't have an article. Can we get a mention here or turn the above link blue please? --kingboyk 15:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

LL's Age

LL Cool J is not 65 please fix this if anyone knows his real age. Thanks!!!

D-Cell

LL Cool J's Platinum Body
I'm not sure but I've heard that this book has been realized. The artice should be updated accordingly. Sorry, I can't do this myself because I don't know the details. Elfalem 18:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

lead photo
I added a free photo, but kinda like these ones as well and wonder if they could be incorporated in the article:

Image:LL Cool J with arms raised at 2007 MyCoke Fest in Atlanta.JPG Image:LL Cool J welcomes fan on-stage at 2007 MyCoke Fest in Atlanta.JPG

I don't really care which one is used and leave this to the editorial judgment of this article's authors. -- mav 03:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Acting Roles
I understand that most of his career has been focused in the music industry, but I find this article glosses over his acting career. This is important, as I am sure there are many people out there who may not listen to his genre of music, and may have become familiar with him from his television or movie roles. Can someone make a specific section for his acting history, and perhaps eliminate the seemingly insignificant statements which have been sprinkled through the music history? An example of this would be 'He starred in In the House, an NBC sitcom, before releasing Mr. Smith (1995), which went on to sell over 2 million copies.' SJM 11 February 2007


 * Excellent idea, perhaps you could take the lead on this effort? Eli lilly 16:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, be bold. Tayquan holla My work 01:11, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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loungin' remix
Hi there. I am trying to figure out what exactly is the "official" name of the song Loungin featuring Total. There are several variations on the web and even here on Wikipedia:


 * In the music video it is simply presented as Loungin


 * In LyricWiki the song's [ http://lyricwiki.org/LL_Cool_J:Loungin%27_%28Who_Do_You_Love_Remix%29 called] Loungin' (Who Do You Love Remix)


 * In All World: Greatest Hits it is called Loungin (Who Do Ya Luv). By the way, this article seems to state that the remix was launched in "All World: Greatest Hits" while the original song was launched in "Mr. Smith"; this contradicts with Mr. Smith (album) on which (in the "track listing" section) it looks like the remix (by the name Loungin) was published as track #10 of "Mr. Smith" (unless the original song also featured Total), and later (on the "samples" section) makes it seem like the two tracks were published in the same album with slightly different names, Loungin' (the original) and Lounging' Remix (Summer Luv) (the remix)


 * In Total (band), the song goes by the name Loungin'/Who Do U Love? and then Loungin' (Who Do U Love?) later on


 * Finally, in Total discography it comes up as Loungin' (Who Do You Luv?) (in the "as guests" section), Loungin'/Who Do U Luv? (in the "guest vocals" section) and Loungin' (Who Do U Love?) (in the "music videos" section)

These are really too many variants. The official name has to be set and these articles edited to conform to it. Can someone help clarify this issue? --Waldir talk 14:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The track's legal name is "Loungin", as reported by BMI (work #3993931). Eli lilly (talk) 12:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing me to the BMI repertoire search. Actually, the remix (which samples Bernard Wright's Who Do You Love) seems to be work #3746405. At least, it was the only one that included Bernard Wright in the composers list, so I suppose it is safe to assume it's that one. The legal name would therefore be "Loungin Remix", and I'll update all articles that refer to this title to reflect this. Thanks for your help. --Waldir talk 19:42, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, actually there are still a few issues I'd like help with.
 * Reading the articles Loungin, Mr. Smith (album) and All World: Greatest Hits, I think I could figure out the release timeline for the original Loungin and the Loungin Remix songs. Can someone confirm or deny the following? Loungin (November 7, 1995 / Mr. Smith) > Loungin + Loungin Remix (June 25, 1996 / Loungin) > Loungin Remix (November 5, 1996 / All World: Greatest Hits)
 * Apparently, even though BMI only recognizes one legal name for the song, it has appeared with different titles on the multiple albums it has been released in. I suppose the titles on each album's article should be kept as they were released, perhaps with a reference to the legal name o the song, to avoid confusions such as this.
 * Why is the song called Loungin Remix anyway? it has nothing to do with the original Loungin: the lyrics are different ([ http://lyricwiki.org/LL_Cool_J:Loungin%27 original], [ http://lyricwiki.org/LL_Cool_J:Loungin%27_%28Who_Do_You_Love_Remix%29 remix]), the songs they sample are different (original/original's sample, remix/remix's sample). I am tempted to fix the articles stating that the songs, despite their name, are unrelated, but I am afraid I cannot do that without being sure, so.... any help?
 * Thenks, Waldir talk 00:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

At discogs it is listed as this on the 12 inch vinyl single - http://www.discogs.com/release/292575 Xm2631 (talk) 07:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Once again there's contradiction: Discogs presents the following track listing:
 * A1: Loungin (Who Do Ya Luv Remix) (3:46)
 * A2: Loungin (Who Do Ya Luv Remix Instrumental) (3:46)
 * B1: Summer Luv (LP Version) (4:23)
 * B2: Summer Luv (Instrumental) (4:23)
 * ...while the article Loungin has a slightly different listing:
 * A1: "Loungin'" (Radio Remix Edit)- 3:45
 * A2: "Loungin'" (LP Radio Edit)- 3:59
 * B1: "Loungin'" (LP Version)- 4:10
 * B2: "Summer Luv" -4:38
 * note the many differences: apart from the obvious discrepancy in B1, there's an apostrophe in the Wikipedia article, absent in Discogs; the duration is different, and the text in parenthesis too. Is there any chance to get things clear about this song or what? :S --Waldir talk 10:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Date questioning
The article has Smith being born in 1942. Is this correct? .Absolution. 14:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * His birthday is January 14 and he was born in 1968-he is only 41yrs old —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.47.121 (talk) 18:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The lead....
I'm a bit uneasy about how this is phrased:

"He now resides in Manhasset, New York with his wife and four children. The couple has also adopted several times."

Are we now determining that adopted children are not worth a mention as his children? I don't really know a whole lot about the family set up, but these sentences are very poorly written, especially in light of the fact that, unless I've missed it, there is no further exploration of the family dynamic. Are the four children adopted? Are some of them adopted? Are there other children? Or is the term 'adopted' being used in a loose sense, perhaps that they sponser children? If anyone knows more than what is written, I think the lead should be reworded. Sky83 (talk) 08:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Poorly written...
I suggest several articles receive re-writes. Several albums that, over time, have gone platinum have been stated as "not going platinum".

Also, the chronological statements of several events conflict with reality.

Not to mention, "Bigger and Deffer" and "Mama Said..." both sold over 3 million copies.


 * Agreed, this article is very badly written and sourced; a few minutes of reading and I've already changed/identified many problems. For example, the section on the album 14 Shots to the Dome stated that the album (went platinum despite having no single released,) however linking to the dedicated page for that album states the album went gold, and had 4 singles released.  How can anyone allow this sort of thing?  If you write a section on an album, at least cross-reference.Hrhadam (talk) 00:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Best Compilation Album?
Well it is written (He has released twelve studio albums and a "greatest hits compilation" so far)

what about the album .... which songs are in it?

anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by M112a (talk • contribs) 13:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Living —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.31.90.22 (talk) 03:04, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

sweaty armpits
do we really have to use a pic of him with sweat stains under his arms?

93.130.5.150 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:30, 31 May 2011 (UTC).

Contradictions in place of birth and high school
LL Cool J was born in Bay Shore, NY and attended Bay Shore HS. Your article is erroneous in that it states two places of birth and incorrectly states his High School. Please correct so that it states accurate facts and not some clown venting incorrect data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.32.55.84 (talk) 14:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Rock the Bells
The link in the first paragraph of this page for "Rock the Bells" does not link to the page for the LL Cool J song, instead it links to the Hip Hop music festival of the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.190.48.109 (talk) 20:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Apache Server hoax
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"LL Cool J was an early investor of Apache HTTP Server, and some of his early lyrics are still hidden in the lines of code."

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The assertion is not true. says the book contains nothing about LL Cool J. called the claim "patent nonsense." We should all keep an eye out for this hoax. Binksternet (talk) 16:52, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018
154.76.105.189 (talk) 12:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
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Lede
The lede would be improved by removing the names of the other 2 rappers. MAYBE (doubtful), they could be worked into the main article. They definitely don't belong in the lede. rags (talk) 09:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible category removal
LL Cool J is currently placed in the category American male stage actors, but why is he placed in the category if there is no proof of him ever being in a stage play or production? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.173.43 (talk) 17:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

No reference to the "Jingling Baby" remix?
It's only the single that brought back LL's lost street credibility after the fallout from Walking With A Panther. Mind you, I am referring to the remix that eventually appeared on Mama Said Knock You Out, not the original from Walking With A Panther. Could someone add that part in?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by RLee84 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Sang
He sang in a choir can he sing has anyone ever heard him sing.Is he any good?- he has only sung on one of his records.. can you name that one ?

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yes 45.46.102.13 (talk) 06:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Rick Rubin — whole paragraph?
In the section **1985–1987: Radio**, the last paragraph is fairly detailed, and stops being about LL Cool J's album after the first sentence. Reduce that entire paragraph to perhaps just its first sentence, and also link to Rick Rubin ("instead")? not-just-yeti (talk) 00:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Guess what?
LL Cool J is in Times Square right now for New Year's Eve. He's rapping Mama Said Knock You Out as I type this! 2603:6080:A700:1C39:15C5:E009:5F02:C9E5 (talk) 04:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Please review section about marriage
I have recently edited LL Cool J, and referred to a new section about his wife: here. I also included references to her cancer, her friendship with Mary J. Blige, her entrepreneurship and Christianity. Is it necessary? Let me know. If not, then we resolve this edit. Thanks. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 16:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

End of section about marriage
Is it necessary to put "As of 2024, the couple remain married.[citation needed]" I would think it is implied unless otherwise noted. However I don't know if that is customary on Wikipedia. EmmRose (talk) 19:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)