Talk:LVM3/Archive 1

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Height 25 metres?
I think that's wrong - 42,4 metres. "42.4 m tall with a lift off weight of 630 tonnes. 25 metres = first stage? --88.217.122.151 (talk) 11:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

GSLV II? ... or III?
There is currently a sentence in the article that reads "The GSLV-I has a Russian-made cryogenic third stage, which is to be replaced with an identical Indian-built one for the GSLV-II."

Since this article is about the Mark III, not the Mark II, not sure what this means. Is it just a typo? Or was the Russian-made cryogenic stage replace between the Mark I and Mark II? — in which case some context needs to be given to make the prose fit in the Mark III article. Moreover, if it was replaced in the Mark II, and the Mark III is now under development, it would seem the verb tense needs to be fixed ("was replaced" instead of "is to be replaced"). Cheers. N2e (talk) 14:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

the C25 cryogenic engine and the maiden flight
according to the Russian source, by the time of the US objection, 80% of the tech regarding the cryogenic engine has already been transfered to India, but russians are not very good with cryogenic tech, that's why indians are struggling.

the maiden flight was in 2010, which failed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LesAdieux101 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Changing the name of the article
GSLV Mk III is not a variant of the original GSLV. To avoid this confusion, ISRO uses a new alternate name LVM3 for the MkIII. Therefore, I propose that LVM3 (a page I created currently referencing this article) be made the main article and this be a reference to that article. This would serve the following purposes.
 * Synchrony between the nomenclature used by ISRO and in Wikipedia as ISRO is developing the rocket.
 * Avoid confusion between this rocket and the original GSLV.

I would like inputs on this proposal. --Johnxxx9 (talk) 12:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It is still listed as GSLV Mk.III on the ISRO website, so I'd be inclined to oppose a move at this time. With regards avoiding confusion, there are already plenty of examples of rockets that are part of a particular series in name only - the Delta IV, for example, has nothing whatsoever in common with the Delta II. GSLV Mk.III seems to be the most common name for now; lets wait and see what they call it when it starts launching. -- W.  D.   Graham  18:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with Johnxxx9, since ISRO keeps mentioning this as the LVM3 X mission. The full form of LVM3 is not mentioned and I can only assume it is Launch Vehicle Mark 3 eXperimental. Even the rocket carried this nomenclature instead of GSLV Mark III see this ISRO Facebook photo.-- PremKudva    Talk   06:27, 18 December 2014 (UTC)


 * As compared to this March '14 ISRO photo of the mockup where it says GSLV Mark III. Looks like they have changed the name. Without much of an announcement. For some reason?-- PremKudva    Talk   03:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yet the front page of ISRO's website still uses GSLV. This press release, dated yesterday, uses both names in the first paragraph: "first experimental flight (GSLV Mk-III X/CARE) of [...] GSLV Mk-III [...] Also known as LVM3-X/CARE.". That suggests that GSLV Mk.III is still the name and LVM3 is some kind of shorthand version (GSLV Mk.3?). -- W.  D.   Graham  20:36, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I after my comment above I checked some more photos on the ISRO site at the GSLV was still there on the vehicle like here GSLV photo, and LVM3 is mentioned on the rear in this photo, and nothing at all in this photo. I have to agree with you.-- PremKudva    Talk   05:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I think ISRO is updating its website. The new site has changed the name of the launch vehicle to LVM 3 (Please see this page). There is no mention of GSLV Mk III anywhere on the page. Looks like ISRO is renaming the launch vehicle. The reason why they might have included the name GSLV Mk III within the press release is that people are familiar with the old name. --Ashinpt (talk) 11:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah I just saw that, but they have not yet fully made up their mind. Since the graphic of the launcher still says GSLV while the article says LVM3. BTW the ISRO site has got a great new make over. Looks really smooth compared to the rubbish look it had till last week.
 * I think ISRO is pretty much changed it to LVM3, and the article name and references can be changed to LVM3.-- PremKudva    Talk   04:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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various problems
This article states in 2 places that the first orbital launch will be in 2016; in 2 other places it states 2017. Under Suborbital test flight it states that "the GSLV-III can launch satellites weighing up to four tonnes" but the summary box gives twice that (8,000 kg). Stage 2 states that the improved Vikas engine provides "improved weight and specific impulse" but the Isp of 293 given in the summary box is actually less than listed for the previous GSLV (295 for the second stage (the 262 for the boosters is obviously sea level rather than vacuum)). References 14 & 15 are duplicates; 24 & 25 are too and neither link works; 23 & 32 may also be. There are multiple typographical errors - under Suborbital test flight: "in the The", "9.30 am", & "future The"; under Stage 3 there should be a ; (instead of ,) after "initiated in 2003". 69.72.92.71 (talk) 08:48, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the difference in payloads will be to different orbits, so it will have to be mentioned at 8 tonnes to Low Earth Orbit and 4 tonnes to Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit. I checked the article it is quite clear about the payloads. Both payloads are mentioned that to LEO and GTO in the infobox. In the suborbital entry it is mentioned four tonnes since it mentions it will be used for launch of INSAT class satellites so to GTO only. I deleted the extra references, typos and also deleted that four tonne mention since it was redundant. Turns reference 23 and 32 were identical articles in The Hindu but with different urls. Merged them. 24 and 25 are identical but dead, added by someone in 2009 and long gone. Marked it as dead link. Do report any more errors here. Thanks for you effort.-- PremKudva    Talk   11:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes. Moorrests (talk) 19:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to change the title to LVM III.
After after previous discussion on the launcher's name, which was inconclusive since ISRO seemed to be using both names, today I checked their site to find that LVM III is used very prominently now on their website. I think it is time to change the name of the article. Please comment. -- PremKudva    Talk   11:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I do have to add that the launcher graphic carried on that page still says GSLV Mk III.-- PremKudva    Talk   11:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I think that there is now sufficient motive to change the name permanently to LVM-3, especially after the first flight where it was continually referred to as the LVM-3. Prad2609 (talk) 17:05, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Look at these images in this album http://imgur.com/a/glmnS. Image 1 http://i.imgur.com/BWNkBGa.jpg Name written as LVM3.X (Back) in english. Image 2 http://i.imgur.com/ZGHqckj.jpg एलवीएम3.X (LVM3.X in Devnagri) (Front). Image 3 Just before launch http://i.imgur.com/d5mJkHw.jpg No name. Image 4 during takeoff http://i.imgur.com/IvqJkT5.jpg Insulation fell off revealing old name!.

ISRO before launch changed its mind about name of launch vehicle a few times. During launch it appears insulation over old name 'GSLV MKIII' fell off! Confusion confusion! ISRO themselves haven't made up their mind. standardengineer (talk) 01:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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stages
The summary box gives the number of stages as 2 but there are 3 stages as stated in the main text (excluding the first test launch that had a dummy 3rd stage). 96.88.198.77 (talk) 23:03, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Removal of Information regarding Cryogenic Engine Development
The information regarding Cryogenic engine development is not related to GLSV Mk. III as it uses a different Cryo stage that what was initially developed by ISRO. The development aspects are already covered in teh GLSV article as it is the right place for that. I am removing the relevant details from this page. -- Hagennos  ❯❯❯  Talk  23:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

thrust in tonnes??
WTF is thrust stated in tonnes? Is this to augment all the idiotic (alternate) units?

200.68.142.9 (talk) 05:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC) baden k.
 * "Tonne" means "metric ton" of 1,000 kg. However, "ton" means either "long ton" (2,240 lb) or "short ton" (2,000 lb). --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 12:29, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * "tonne" is a mass unit, "ton" is a force unit. Thrust should be stated in a force unit, i.e. "Newtons".

200.68.143.25 (talk) 20:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC) baden k

Orphaned references in Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Mark III
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The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 18:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 02 Launch of GSLV Mk III D2 with GSAT-29 from Second Launch Pad of Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota (SDSC SHAR).jpg
 * C25 D Stage on test stand.jpg
 * GSLV Mk III D2 with GSAT-29 on Second Launch Pad of Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota (SDSC SHAR).jpg
 * GSLV Mk III M1, Chandrayaan-2 - C25 cryogenic stage at Vehicle Assembly Building for vehicle integration.jpg
 * GSLV Mk III M1, Chandrayaan-2 - Fully integrated GSLV Mk III M1 vehicle at the Vehicle Assembly Building..jpg
 * GSLV Mk III M1, Chandrayaan-2 Lifting off 01.jpg
 * GSLV Mk III M1, Chandrayaan-2 Lifting off 04.jpg

Requested move 9 December 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to GSLV Mk III. (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   13:15, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Mark III → ? – The present article name does not meet the WP:COMMONNAME criteria. So I want to rename it any of the following:
 * GSLV Mk3
 * GSLV Mk III
 * Bahubali (rocket)

Pinging for seeking help. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 12:13, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If really needed, I suggest using GSLV Mk III. Fits best. But this also means upsetting consistency since GSLV Mk II article is named Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Shanze1 (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Support move to GSLV Mk III – not because of anything other than simply creating a more concise article title. "GSLV" is an officially used acronym for the launch vehicle family's name, and the acronym is not shared with any other topic currently covered on Wikipedia. I'd definitely recommend making similar proposals for the rest of ISRO's launch vehicle fleet. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk &middot;&#32;articles &middot;&#32;reviews) 05:28, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Talk page archiving
This talk page realy needs an archiving to navigate through the current discussions. So I want to install the Lowercase sigmabot III in this page. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 05:59, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Removing VTVL variant subsection.
I am removing subsection about a speculated reusable variant of GSLV Mk III based on single report which is erroneous and is based on this video statement at CII webinar and no other documents exist to support it. VTVL demo mission being talked about is a separate project with a test bed not ready yet. Ohsin 00:52, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoIdCVfNbfY&t=10445s