Talk:LaCie

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Hello,
 * what is the correct pronunciation of LaCie?
 * I pronounce it Luh-SEE. | -ShaneCavanaugh 20:22, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * I ordered one of their drives from Dell. The lady on the phone pronounced it LaSee.  I guess she'd know, since she told me later on that she used to work for them before they moved their headquarters to Oregon.  I've always pronounced it LaySee though, and still do. :) | -LStrong2K 16:58, October 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * I pronounce it "Lace-e" — Wackymacs 18:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I just emailed LaCie sales support to clear this up, because it's been bothering me for a while, too. Here's their response:

Thank you for your email. The name LaCie comes from the French abbreviation of the phrase "The Company". A direct translation would be "The Co.", and the pronunciation would sound out to be La- Cie (pronounced Sea).

Thank you,

______________________________________________ The LaCie Store Direct Sales (503) 844-4500x2 (503) 844-4501- fax 22985 NW Evergreen Pkwy Hillsboro, OR 97124
 * So, there ya go. --TangentIdea 19:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * And to think I have always pronounced La-See-A. Thanks for the correction! Arbiteroftruth (talk) 04:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A company named "The Company" is certainly the best name for a company I've ever heard. J I P  &#124; Talk 18:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

2TB External Hard Drive
LaCie now has a 2TB external hard drive, which should be added to the timeline. I would ad it myself, but I don't know when it was released. They sell it on Amazon. Wuffyz

There's an archive of their press releases at http://www.lacie.com/uk/company/news/ (back to 2004). Bear in mind that European and US prodcu releases sometimes differ - select UK in "choose country" menu for European PR in English. Wikidwitch 23:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

No mention of APS aquisition
There's no mention of LaCie buying out drive maker APS, which was a major Mac HD company in the 90s. LaCie continued to use APS's cases for a couple years after the takeover (right before the d2 line of drives came out). --68.103.154.140 03:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Additional info about APS aquisition: Yes, that was definitely an important step in the expansion process. APS Technologies was (according to sources within the company at the time) the world's largest manufacturer of external desktop storage products on the Mac market, and it's only large competitor on the Mac market was LaCie. APS Technlologies filed for Chapter 11 in January 1998, and was in March 1998 aquired by LaCie. 78.70.19.210 (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Design and Timeline
Since design is so important to LaCie's history, should the design section be more thorough to cover each of their new introductions over the years? Images could be used from their press releases to visually illustrate the different designs. I would be willing to do the research, but should it be done? --The Rumour 21:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Definitely a good idea. Images sourced from PR are probably under © LaCie or ©reviewer and not public domain. Would have to seek clearance before use. Wikidwitch 23:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Factual Errors, founder, naming, ...
La Cie, Ltd. (La Cie) was founded in July 1987 in Tigard, Oregon, USA. La Cie was not two companies simply one. Joel Kamerman, his parents Robert and Tudy Kamerman, and Roger Bates founded La Cie. Joel Kamerman was La Cie's president and general manager from July 1987 through December 1995.

The company was named La Cie, Ltd. by Joel Kamerman. His first company was called Kamerman Labs and having been awakened in the middle of the night with customer phone calls he decided to name the company, The Company. Joel's first new car was a Renault Le Car, hence La Cie. The French was not correct but it sounded and looked better than Le Cie.

Joel Kamerman founded La Cie on three principals: (1) profit was more important than revenue; (2) product differentiation would create profit; and (3) vertical integration was key to La Cie's long term viability. La Cie's objective was to create premier products and differentiate the company through industrial design and value added software.

La Cie's Silverlining software was one key to their success. Silverlining was designed and developed by Roger Bates whom Joel Kamerman met at Tektronix. Roger Bates met with Joel Kamerman in 1983 and suggested the idea of a Macintosh drive.

Joel Kamerman through La Cie pioneered the concept of industrial designed products before companies were following the design trend. La Cie won industrial design awards for the Cirrus Drive, the Tsunami Drive, the Pocket Drive and the Joule. Except for the Joule, all products were designed and manufactured before La Cie was acquired by Quantum Corporation or D2. All La Cie products were designed by Portland Oregon's Ziba Design, a worldwide leader helping companies create ideas, design and experiences.

Before La Cie was acquired by Quantum, Joel Kamerman heard a rumor that Quantum was buying Jasmine a La Cie competitor. Joel Kamerman immediately called Bill Roach to discuss the rumor. Joel Kamerman suggested if Quantum is going to buy an aftermarket drive company, why not acquire a profitable one like La Cie!

La Cie was acquired by Plus Development, a Quantum division, in November of 1990. La Cie grew from 3 employees in 1987 to approximately 100 by 1995. La Cie was Quantum's most profitable and smallest subsidiary, and it was the most successful US Apple aftermarket drive company, nonetheless Quantum had difficulty justifying La Cie when Quantum was selling $2 billion dollars worth of OEM drives. Quantum decided to sell La Cie and several companies in the United States were approached with the idea of an acquisition. Joel Kamerman theorized the problem with a US acquisition is that La Cie would be downsized and employees would loose their jobs. Joel Kamerman suggested that Quantum find an international buyer such as D2 where an acquisition would benefit from both domestic and international distribution.

The rest is history.

La Cie / Le Cie
''Joel's first new car was a Renault Le Car, hence La Cie. The French was not correct but it sounded and looked better than Le Cie.''

How's the French not correct in "La Cie"? Actually "Le Cie" would be incorrect. Cie is a standard abbreviation for "compagnie" as stated above. Compagnie is a feminine, hence "La" is the only correct solution. -- L. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaton77 (talk • contribs) 00:41, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
 * How is the company name pronounced? --JWB (talk) 02:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

"Problems"
I removed the nonsensical, badly researched paragraph on "problems", which has no place here - especially since it was based solely on testimony of a motley assortment of customers whose qualification cannot be substantiated. After all, there is no "Problem" secion anywhere else, or is there one on "General Motors" automobiles, etc. Theomas Muething —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC).

Maybe there is no "Problems" section for other companies because they are not beset with the same problems as Lacie. If you look at "General Motors" you will note that there are a number of sections devoted to the problems of the company. i.e. "Environmental record" and "Labour Relations" Also, I find it quite odd that testimony of customers is not valid. Surely the users of a product have the best direct experience of it?

I plan to re-add the article referencing the information from these data recovery specialists. http://www.datlabs.co.uk/lacie-data-recovery.htm

"Recent drive failure figures have shown that there has been an increase in the failure rate of the larger capacity LaCie products. Datlabs have extensive knowledge of the typical problems faced by LaCie hard disk drives and would provide you with the best chance of retrieving your data."

"Specific files and / or directories become inaccessible and disappear."

"In more severe cases, the entire drive becomes inaccessible and disappears."

"The internal fan is susceptible to damage, and can break down due to wear and tear, the drive(s) are then prone to overheat within the casing, causing the device to fail."

"LaCie external disks are still prone to all the other problems hard disks suffer from ie. mechanical failure, logical failure, bad sectors etc." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.169.82 (talk) 14:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

This Is the Worst Technology Wikipedia Article I Have Ever Read
To reiterate, this is the worst Wikipedia technology article I have ever read. More of the article consists of how the company got its name than any other issue. It is obviously written by a bunch of stupid apple fan boys. Every hard drive manufacturer in the world has problems. However not one associated with Apple -- the problem section has been removed. I came here to answer one simple question: Does the company manufacture its own drives or use drives manufactured by other companies such as Seagate, Western Digital, Samsung, etc.? No information to be found. I am quite sure I will not be allowed to edit a single word of this article. In fact, any day I expect to see it locked down with a silver or gold lock because written by Apple fan boys, is, by definition, perfect and in no need of any actual facts. Just compare this article with the ones on the Western Digital or Seagate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.191.133 (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing about the actual hard drives, and after doing a google image search it apears that LaCie hard drives use/used a number of various manufacturers: at least Maxtor, Seagate, Hitachi, WD, and Samsung. BebopBob (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

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