Talk:La Cañada Flintridge, California

Picture Needed
The picture needed picture looks like it might need to be removed.  Pzoxicuvybtnrm  03:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks fixed to me. I'm marking this as ✅. --BjKa (talk) 08:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Huh?
OK, the opening paragraph ends with this: As of 2009, Its ZIP code of 91011 ranks the city as the 113th most expensive city to live in the United States So if I read this right (and I'm sure I'm not), the city's zip code is what determines the cost of living? Proxy User (talk) 05:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks fixed to me. I'm marking this as ✅. --BjKa (talk) 08:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Angeles Crest Highway Controversy
I was confused by the section header Angeles Crest Highway Controversy. Were the traffic rule changes met with opposition? The article only states that the rules were changed due to some bad accidents. Where's the controversy? Mnoe817 (talk) 06:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks fixed to me. I'm marking this as ✅. --BjKa (talk) 08:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

JPL
In this article and the Pasadena article, both cities claim to be the home of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. JPL is within the city limits of which city? Unless the grounds of JPL straddle the border between the two cities, only one has a legitimate claim. Would someone please correct this conflict? 174.24.67.169 (talk) 15:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe JPL is technically within La Canada's city limits, but has a Pasadena mailing address, for whatever reason. That is what my friends who work there say; I have no first-hand knowledge. I grew up in La Canada, and JPL is quite literally down the street from the high school. The street you go down, however, is right along the border, with the high school and horse ranch on the west being in La Canada and the park to the east being in Pasadena.  As such, it's pretty difficult to tell just by looking at an overhead map where the exact border is. 24.7.179.139 (talk) 01:25, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * JPL is and always has been located in the city limits of La Canada. However, when it began operating it required a larger post office than La Canada could provide at the time, so its mailing address is in Pasadena. Here's an LA Times article explaining, and also a reference where the LA Times (a pretty good authority, I would think) states that JPL is in La Canada. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/readers/2012/08/jpl-mars-curiosity-la-canada-flintridge.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.64.176.63 (talk) 22:33, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Legally, JPL is within both the City of La Cañada Flintridge and the City of Pasadena . Per the Los Angeles County Assessor's map, the vast majority of the site (I'd say ~90%) of the campus is within La Cañada Flintridge, but there are parts of buildings/buildings that are within the City of Pasadena's limits. When JPL was first built, La Cañada had not yet been incorporated, so technically the lab was built in an unincorporated area of Los Angeles County. As the rural post office couldn't deal with the volume of mail for the lab, it was given a Pasadena zip code by the USPS rather than building a bigger post office. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:67F:E88A:A186:F249:6C7A:959F (talk) 22:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Etymology
The article currently says: "canyada", meaning canyon, gorge, or ravine Now, I'm not an expert on Spanish, but doesn't the -ada ending denote an adjective? So, first of all the spelling is cañada and not canyada! And secondly cañada does not mean gorge. Cañon means gorge. Cañada means a gorge-ey area of land. Can't think of a direct translation for it offhand, but there should be enough native speakers here to find a proper expression. (And it's probably not "gorgeous" either. :-) ) --BjKa (talk) 08:14, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Una tierrra cañada? 20:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Celebs
I had added Adam Carolla and Drew Pinsky but my edits were reversed due to no refs. I noticed none of the other celebs are refed either, so was wondering where to ref them? . I will admit that my sourcing on Drew's residency in LCF is based on his comments in Podcasts, and will need to find additional citation for that one. Apriestofgix (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sourcing is a bit complicated. You can go here for the full picture: Citing_sources, but also you can just put the source information directly into the article and somebody will eventually come along and mark it up for you. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm listing the celebs that were removed here as a listing of people to find citations for. Angela Bassett; Ron Howard; Chris D'Elia; Diane Farr; Bill Plaschke, Miley Cyrus, Billy Ray Cyrus, Steve Priest, Frank Thomas, Eric Larson, Chris Buck, Manny Ramirez, Mike Marshall (outfielder), Jae Seo.  Apriestofgix (talk) 22:50, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Changes to Points of Interest
Under the Points of Interest section, there's a short description about the Town Center. I know that in 2016, Sport Chalet went out of business. Someone should take out the section about Sports Chalet and perhaps replace it with the new business that will be housed in the building.

Also, it may not be too relevant to include the section about Hahamonga Park in the section since it's technically in Pasadena. If it's better to keep that fact in the article, that section should at least be reworded. I read the article about frisbee golf and it states that there were frisbee golf courses in existence before the one in Hahamonga Park was set up, but that the one in Hahamonga Park was the first version of the standardized target course.

There is also a missing link to Delphi Academy of Los Angeles. The link should be deleted since the link for the general Delphi Academy corporation should provide enough information about the organization.

Besides this, I believe all the other information is relevant and up to date. There doesn't appear to be any bias in the content. Akim17 (talk) 00:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have changed the wording for the Town Center as well as removing the linking for Delphi. I'll leave the Hahamonga wording as is since I know there is a large amount of tension about if that's part of La Canada or Pasadena (same with JPL) so that will be left as is until someone wants to wade into those waters.  Apriestofgix (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Move article to La Cañada Flintridge
There is no other place named "La Cañada Flintridge" so the "California" modifier is really unnecessary. Is there a reason why the article is titled "La Cañada Flintridge, California" instead of simply "La Cañada Flintridge"? If not, then it should really be moved. --Nicholas0 (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 28 April 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 04:44, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

La Cañada Flintridge, California → La Cañada Flintridge – There is only one place by this name so no disambiguation is necessary. Nicholas0 (talk) 15:54, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:41, 28 April 2019 (UTC)


 * queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:USPLACE advises . Is this place metropolitan/well-known enough for a concise name like Los Angeles or San Francisco both are? For instance, Sioux Falls doesn't need disambiguation either, but Sioux Falls, South Dakota is the title.Vycl1994 (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose per the standard of WP:USPLACE. This does not qualify under the so-called "AP Stylebook exception rule" of WP:USPLACE, so it should have the state in the title like most other US cities. I assume that the OP and others who may be browsing their way through may not be familiar with the guideline (or the long, tedious, historic debates about it). So I would recommend both the FAQ box at the top at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names), and also Perennial proposals (which summarizes the rationale for WP:USPLACE into five bullet points). TLDR: most U.S. places are in this "City, State" format because this is a consistent naming convention commonly used by many reliable sources in the U.S. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:14, 29 April 2019 (UTC)


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Tilde source?
Is there a source for using the tilde? When I lived there about sixty years ago, there was none. If it is new, then shouldn't there be a note about that? If I get the answer, I'll put it here, but meanwhile does anybody else know? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:28, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Added two references. With typewriters and such before modern technology, I'm sure the tilde was ignored frequently. Fettlemap (talk) 16:04, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

City hall move
I agree with the spirit of User:Magnolia677's change to this article (revision/1108341293), but there was a lot of information that was eliminated. Quoting a few bulletpoints from the previous rev (Special:Redirect/revision/1108345381):


 * La Cañada Flintridge's City Hall was located on 1327 Foothill Boulevard from December 1976 to March 2019.
 * In March 2019, the government moved to a new City Hall at One Civic Center Drive, which is located in the La Cañada Flintridge Town Center where the former Sport Chalet headquarters were located.
 * As of July 2022, the current members of the city council are:
 * Council Member Kim Bowman Jr.
 * Council Member Teresa Walker
 * Council Member Michael T. Davitt
 * The City Council meets on the first and third Tuesdays of each month at 6 p.m. in the Council Chambers of La Cañada Flintridge City Hall.
 * The City Council elections were held on Tuesday after the first Monday in March of odd-numbered years, but effective March 2020, the City Council elections will be held along with California's presidential, U.S. House and California State Senate and Assembly Primary election.

The exact time of the City Council meetings doesn't seem notable to me, but the move of the La Cañada Flintridge City Hall does. The exact address isn't as notable as the fact that the facility moving from the old city center (presumably) to a shopping complex (for example). The council members may also be notable (or become notable). I have some hunches about La Cañada Flintridge which become harder to research if this information is deleted (hence my comment to make sure we have the information in a more-easily located place). -- RobLa (talk) 04:07, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove the names of the city council members. Why is the change in location of city council meetings notable? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * - sorry about my sloppy copying of the diff, and then misreading it. It's difficult to quote changes that people make with MediaWiki (other than linking ton the diff, but that makes it difficult to discuss the line-by-line changes).
 * Regardless, the location of city hall is symbolic and notable for any city, and there is usually a rich history associated with the location where public city council meetings are held and official city business is conducted every weekday. As I was investigating the move from 1327 Foothill Boulevard to One Civic Center Drive, I found a few things I wasn't expecting to find.  The first was that it moved less than a mile down "Foothill Boulevard" from the former location.  The second is that the main road to get to city hall is notable, but city hall apparently isn't.  The third is that all of the franchise businesses in La Cañada Town Center are clearly notable by some editors' standards, but apparently city hall isn't worth mentioning in the #Municipal_government section of the article.  It's only worth mentioning as a secondary mention to the more important story of a bankrupt sporting goods store, which (it would seem) was the flagship tenant of the mall that is now a little bit smaller.  It seems that the story of city hall should go under #Municipal_government, shouldn't it? -- RobLa (talk) 08:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:USCITIES is the accepted guideline for US city articles. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC)