Talk:Lactic acid bacteria

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Is anyone here familiar enough with the topic to make a comment about the relation to tyramine formation? One source at least stated that the lactic acid bacteria were the ones relevant to the formation of tyramine from tyrosine, and hence the problems with hypertensive crises. Zuiram 10:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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homofermentation
define or link to definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.156.56.228 (talk) 12:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Potential references
From. See discussion: --Ronz (talk) 18:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Dicks, L.M.T. / Botes, M. “Probiotic lactic acid bacteria in the gastro-intestinal tract: health benefits, safety and mode of action”, Beneficial Microbes (2010),1(1):11-29.
 * Kim, J.-E. et al. “Cancer chemopreventive effects of lactic acid bacteria”, Journal of Microbiology and Biotechnology (2007),17(8):1227-1235.

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Proposed merge
A merge with Lactobacilles would be a very good move. Iztwoz (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree 138.16.2.189 (talk) 01:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, should have been merged into Lactobacilles. Chhandama (talk) 10:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: Lactobacillales are simply lactic acid bacteria Chhandama (talk) 11:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Tooth decay & Dental Caries
I am missing a section linking the LABs to the process of tooth decay. I am not aware how many of the LABs are linked or can be linked to this process, but at least the Streptococcus sobrinus, Streptococcus mutans and the entire genus of Lactobacillus are. I am currently investigating if lactic acid is the only acid involved in tooth decay. If anybody has a good source on this particular issue it will be much appreciated.

RhinoMind (talk) 14:30, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Dental Caries should be definitely mentioned. Would also be VERY interesting to know are these drinks as good for your (dental) health as claimed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soured_milk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt

Interestingly, also hard cheese like Emmental or Edam has probably a pH below 7.

Luckily, all tap water has been adjusted >7 with Calcium Carbonate for example in Finland, because pH below 7 corrodes the water pipes.

Even if something is safe for Enamel, it may not be safe for Dentin!

ee1518 (talk) 11:28, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 October 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Lactobacillales → Lactic acid bacteria – Lactic acid bacteria is the common name; lactobacillales hardly registers on ngrams; google search shows 158K for Lactobacillales and 2 million plus for Lactic acid bacteria; Lactic acid bacteria was a long-standing page name and page refers constantly to LAB. Iztwoz (talk) 21:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support --Jon Sega (talk) 11:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I note this reverses 16:43, 27 October 2014‎ Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (45 bytes) (+45)‎ . . (Anthony Appleyard moved page Lactic acid bacteria to Lactobacillales: Requested at WP:RM as uncontroversial. Andrewa (talk) 08:47, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support on technical grounds and move Lactobacillales (old version) to Lactobacillales. Merging "Lactic acid bacteria" and "Lactobacillales" was a mistake. The terms are not precise equivalents. Lactic acid bacteria describes the metabolism and some bacteria with this metabolism have significant human use; the metabolism and human uses are worthwhile content for an article. Sporolactobacillus is listed in the lead of this article, but it is not a member of Lactobacillales; however it is frequently described as a lactic acid bacterium in scholarly sources. It is not clear to me that "lactic acid bacteria" describes all members of Lactobacillales, at least in the sense of human uses. The lead lists 12 Lactobacillales genera that are considered "lactic acid bacteria". There are other genera in the order. Not all "lactic acid bacteria" are Lactobacillales, and not all Lactobacillales are "lactic acid bacteria". Moving this article and Lactobacillales (old version) preserves the edit history associated with these two related but non-equivalent topics. Plantdrew (talk) 17:30, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all of this. Excellent analysis. Andrewa (talk) 18:40, 17 October 2018 (UTC)


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New reference
New reference regarding more clarification on exopolysaccharides

Welman, Alan D., and Ian S. Maddox. "Exopolysaccharides from lactic acid bacteria: perspectives and challenges." Trends in biotechnology 21.6 (2003): 269-274.SpiralOut KeepGoing (talk) 05:48, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Addition of Nicola spuriana mention
This is a cultural reference that should not be included: MOS:POPCULT and wp:COATRACK. This invites the addition of a large list of people who have a bacterium named after them. That is off-topic; not what the article is about. Also, see wp:CREDENTIAL for "Dr.", WP:TONE for slang: "Aussie", "bug" Adakiko (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)