Talk:Ladder of Jacob

Merge to Jacob's Ladder?
Is there enough material available about this article's subject to warranty its own article? Would be it serve the reader better to incorporate this into the article on Jacob's Ladder as a section? This page could be a redirect to there. We can always un-merge later if it turns out more material comes to light. — DragonHawk (talk|hist) 00:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, Article Jacob's Ladder is about the Bible event of Genesis (28:11-19). The Ladder of Jacob is a text of the end of 1 century, quite important in the apocalyptic literature, written centuries after the Genesis and included in not rabbinic litterature. So they are different things: Jacob's Ladder is categorized in "Torah events | Biblical phrases", while Ladder of Jacob is a text and is categorized in "Old Testament Apocrypha | Apocalyptic literature" . It is included in all main apocrypha/pseudopigrapha volumes, as in the recent Sparks' or Charlesworth's ones. All other texts there included have their own article, only this was missing. A ntv (talk) 07:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, you've convinced me. You have a reason which at least seems consistent to my limited understanding, and you seem to be hard at work expanding the article.  So, keep up the good work, and carry on!  :-)  — DragonHawk (talk|hist) 21:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you. A ntv (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it. Yesterday I created it as stub, today and tomorrow I will add material (manuscript tradition, content, theology and so on) in order to arrive to an expansion equal to Apocalypse of Zephaniah. You can check the references I gave. There is enough of material about it, because it is a base text for the development of mysticism. As the Ladder of Divine Ascent by St. John Climacus is a separate text and has its own Article, also this text shall have its own article. The same is for most of apocalyptic litterature texts, as the Testament of Moses that is a text with own Article and not a sub section of Deuteronomy or Moses, and the Life of Adam and Eve that is a text with own Article and not a sub section of Garden of Eden. A ntv (talk) 07:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Rewrite this
It's very difficult to read fluidity. Take our the parenthesis and you might have a good article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.218.111.60 (talk) 20:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC) I've semplified a bit the wording and revomed the longer parhentesis. A ntv (talk) 09:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)