Talk:Lady Gaga/Archive 19

Gaga is italian-american
Please change it: Lady Gaga is an italian-american, her both parents are italians. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3078932/bio --178.11.234.239 (talk) 22:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.11.234.239 (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * IMDB is not a reliable source for such matters. Also, there are multiple sources cited in the early life section of the article, and that section says she's only 75% Italian and has French-Canadian heritage. —C.Fred (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Italian American is also a separate concept from Italian–American. While sources currently used do not explicitly state who has more Italian ancestry, they only say she is part French as opposed to full Italian (for heritage).  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 22:23, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2014
Genres: Pop, dance, electronic, rock

58.7.47.116 (talk) 10:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Genres have already been discussed 12 times on this talkpage - please put "genre" into the archive search to find these. You will need to reach consensus for any changes to be implemented. - Arjayay (talk) 10:41, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article.

Genres
I think one album IS enough to say that Lady Gaga is a Jazz singer... It's not like she just covered one song for christmas or something ! She released an album with Tony Bennett + The Lady Is A Tramp + Winter Wonderland + she often said she was singing jazz since she was 13 + she wondered if she would ever make pop music again. And about the infobox, you should change the "genres" section because Electropop and Dance-pop : Dance-pop is a subgenre and Electropop is a genre but we can generalize both as EDM. There should be Pop, EDM and Jazz in this section.

Although thank you for the great page about Gaga :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThibaultGerm (talk • contribs) 17:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)


 * We try to base genres on long-term relevance/significance, not a recent one-off project. For example, Kanye West made a pop album in 2008, but he is known and referred to in most sources as a hip hop artist, and thus hip hop is the only genre listed in his infobox. For now, jazz should not be included in Gaga's. If she continues to make music in the genre, it can be reevaluated. –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:30, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2015
hello! i just wanna update her main photo. this is one of her recent ig photos 340531146137049 272954904 n.jpg|thumbnail|one of Lady Gaga's recent Instagram photos

thank you!

Patsibilities (talk) 14:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * that is not a free image and can't be used per WP:Non-free content criteria and WP:Image use policy. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:17, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Reliability of Popjustice
A dispute seems to be going on regarding this change (and variants of it) - whether or not it should be included that Giorgio Moroder is working on Gaga's next album due to disputed reliability of the source. I have no doubt in my mind that Popjustice is not the preferred source, and I would prefer other sources to be used... but we're talking about an interview the website conducted with Moroder. There is little reason to believe the interview was falsified, which can have serious legal implications. Also, the website's about page includes outside commentary from Entertainment Weekly, Telegraph, NME, Sunday Times, Guardian, BBC, and several other sources I would consider reliable. It's certainly not a random, no-name blog.

Pinging, , , , and. –Chase (talk / contribs) 18:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It's more reliable than anything from Perez Hilton or Rockonthenet or ATRL, but I'm not convinced that the outside commentary included indicates reliability, even when from high-quality sources. Besides, lots of the commentary talks about its amusement level rather than journalistic reputation. Sometimes things are dubbed "Interview" from subpar sources, and it doesn't make them reliable enough to use. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


 * PopJustice does conduct interviews, so the citation of those interviews is fine. The interview should be linked directly though: --Lapadite (talk) 02:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


 * My edit summary says everything I have to say. If consensus says it's good, I'm fine with it. Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 02:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The content was reported in The Guardian also, why not use it instead of a dubious source, which we are not sure if reliable or not? — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 05:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Mlpearc, context matters. IndianBio, if the content is replicated or reported in another, more widely-accepted source then that source should be cited instead (particularly for BLPs). --Lapadite (talk) 06:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Again, I never said anything about the content.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 17:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , I have added the content back with the source from The Guardian. That should be all for now. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 08:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Good!

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2015
I think genres should be updated, I mean a collaboration with Tony Bennett on his album Duets II, her own jazz EP (A Very Gaga Thanksgiving) and a grammy winning jazz album Cheek to Cheek should be enough to be considered as jazz singer (aside from the fact shes been singing jazz since 13 and has a jazz tour coming up).

90.183.1.45 (talk) 12:07, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. -- Sam Sing! 12:50, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2015
Her Applause Single is 2x Platinum yet it's not listed.

38.140.1.11 (talk) 16:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * As a general note, not all certifications need to be included when separate articles for songs and discography exist. I'm not sure if it's worth adding in this instance. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 16:54, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2015
74.103.123.152 (talk) 04:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC) http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6472997/lady-gaga-engaged-to-longtime-boyfriend-taylor-kinney 74.103.123.152 (talk) 04:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Her engagement has already been included within the article. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Engagement
Lady Gaga got engaged to her boyfriend Taylor Kinney on Feb 14 2015. , 82.181.198.121 (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


 * It has been added to the article <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 22:26, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2015
To add to the LGBT advocacy section:

“The turning point for me was the gay community,” she said. “I’ve got so many gay fans and they’re so loyal to me and they really lifted me up. They’ll always stand by me and I’ll always stand by them. It’s not an easy thing to create a fanbase… Being invited to play the San Francisco Pride Rally, that was a real turning point for me as an artist.” Darraghbrown 13:36, 9 March 2015‎ (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: That section already says:

Early in her career she had difficulty getting radio airplay, and stated, "The turning point for me was the gay community." with the same source, and that paragraph goes on to also mention that she played at the Rally. What does extending this quote add to the article? Cannolis (talk) 20:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Instrument listing in infobox
Shouldn't the piano be listed as one of Gaga's instruments? She is known for playing piano in many of her live performances, she has played it on all of her main albums to date bar Cheek to Cheek (including on the song "You and I", a US top ten hit), she has released two acoustic EPs that prominently feature her playing the piano, and her pre-fame roots as a piano-based singer-songwriter are well documented.

, Template:Infobox musical artist/doc says to use instruments "that the artist is primarily known for using", not "primary instrument[s]" only. (Your interpretation would limit all musician's infobox listings to one instrument, and many artists are well known for playing multiple instruments.) –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned, her piano playing can be noted in prose, 20.000 people don't fill a sports arena to hear her play piano, they go to her her sing. If consensus deems otherwise then fine.   Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 20:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * You could also argue that people go for the dance beats or the visual spectacle, but we're obviously not removing "vocals". What you think people attend one of her concerts for is an opinion; what she frequently uses in live performances and on studio recordings is a fact.


 * I agree with you that too many musician infoboxes are just a laundry list of any instrument the artist has ever picked up - you didn't see me adding back "keyboard" (which is redundant anyway since the piano is a keyboard instrument - but I digress), nor did I add "guitar", "drums", or anything else she's ever played. But the piano is one of the instruments she is mainly known for using, even if it clearly comes second place to her vocals. I'm certainly not using Google as the end-all-be-all, but just to give you an idea, a search for lady gaga piano returns 11 million results, with the top results related to performances (unlike something like "lady gaga guitar", which primarily shows guitar music for her songs). –Chase (talk / contribs) 20:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

There is also a discussion on the same topic at Talk:David Coverdale, I suggest any further comments should be there, just to keep the discussion in one spot. Mlpearc ( open channel ) 01:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No, let's keep it here: the question is whether in this case piano is important enough to warrant mention in the infobox. Drmies (talk) 14:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Based on the number of search returns and the number of times her piano playing interludes in live shows are noted in third party media, I would say yes. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 14:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Without question it should be included; very prominent in her career. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 14:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2015
Could you please use this picture for profile pic? http://www.fashionstylestrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/lady-gaga-grammys-2015-grammy-awards.jpg

23blsep (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC) please


 * Why? I don't see the need for it. The current image works fine as it is. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  23:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That looks like a press image which would fail WP:NFCC. –Chase (talk / contribs) 01:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2015
She isn't one of the best selling artist of all time.

Stis (talk) 19:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: I agree, seems unlikely but, I added a "citation needed" tag to the claim Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 19:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2015
Allyjburr93 (talk) 17:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

❌ No request made. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2015
Hi there, apologies my last request didn't work! Just wondered if Gaga's picture could be changed to the following picture from the 2015 Grammy Awards Red Carpet? The current one is very unflattering on her, particularly in the mid-drift area due to her wearing skin-tight latex. This is the picture I recommend: http://www.fashionstylestrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/lady-gaga-grammys-2015-grammy-awards.jpg

Also, her net-worth is actually $230 million, as per http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/singer/lady-gaga-net-worth/ and http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/lady-gaga-net-worth/ - also a google search of 'lady gaga net worth' gives an answer of $230 million.

Thanks, and best wishes.

Allyjburr93 (talk) 18:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * @Allyjburr93: Addressing the second point first: therichest.com has terms and conditions that indicates they do not fact check: "Information on the site may contain errors or inaccuracies.... The Website does not provide any warranty or guarantee as to the accuracy of the information." Celebritynetworth.com has a similar policy. Thus, neither of them are reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 18:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * As for the image, I don't see any indication that the fashionstyletrend.com image is under a free license. There's no attribution on the image, and the bottom of the website notes "all rights reserved", so we have to assume the image is non-free. —C.Fred (talk) 18:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2015
To change the "achievements" category to "legacy" much like a lot of other pop stars. Thank you.

Cfact91 (talk) 02:14, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I get where you're coming from, but "legacy" sections describe one's impact on society as opposed to simply achievements. I'm not sure she warrants a "legacy section" just yet. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2015
I would like the Net Worth of Lady Gaga to be changed from "U.S. $110 million (June 2011 estimate)" to "U.S. $230 million (June 2015 estimate)". Source: http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/lady-gaga-net-worth/

70.8.48.4 (talk) 02:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celebritynetworth.com has been previously established as not a reliable source. —C.Fred (talk) 02:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Genres
Might we add "jazz" and "traditional pop" to the genres she's worked in? Cranston Lamont (talk) 23:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Too soon when only one album released consists of those genres. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree; recording and releasing one studio album of Jazz and Traditional pop (which is still pop music mind you) does not warrant the addition of those genres to the ibox.   livelikemusic  my talk page! 23:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Cheek to Cheek image
File:Tony Bennett & Lady GaGa, Cheek to Cheek Tour 06 edited.jpg Found this image in commons. This one is pretty elegant, passes BLP main image criteria, as well as we can tweak it too by just cropping a little and adjusting the brightness. Much better than the current one where half her face is hidden. What do you guys think? — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 04:35, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ETA, there is another option in Flickr., — Indian: BIO   [ ChitChat  ] 04:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I quite like the red dress photo. –Chase (talk / contribs) 05:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chase, do you like the length or should we crop it out a little more closeup? — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 05:50, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * By all means go ahead and use the red dress pic :). <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 13:09, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I loved the new image, very beautiful!!! I personally didn't like the old one. Well done IndianBio. GagaNutella (talk) 16:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Partner(s)
Can Taylor Kinney be added as a partner with (engaged) next to his name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:49:4001:9A84:319B:E65C:4C9F:CB06 (talk) 01:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Too soon for him to be in infobox; wait until they get married and/or have children together. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:58, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2015
I'm a big little monster for Gaga and i really wanna share some real information about her.

Alex2Nester (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please give specific examples of the changes/additions you wish to make. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 16:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Meat Dress
Hi there,

I feel like the meat dress is one of the defining moments of her career and certainly one of the most prominent images the public think of when they see or hear the name 'Lady Gaga'. I therefore would suggest that a picture of her wearing the dress be added to one of the sections of the article, if not even as the main picture for her page.

Regards Gagafan127 (talk) 21:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It can only be added if we have a free image of her wearing the dress at MTV VMA 2010. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 06:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The picture is already included at the relevant article, Lady Gaga's meat dress; there would have to be a very good use rationale to include it here. And we don't use non-free images as main pictures for living people, especially when free images of them exist. Chase (talk &#124; contributions) 06:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2015
She has only one associated act, and his name's Tony Bennett!

When is she going to record a new album?

2600:100C:B01B:9DF3:D41D:AF56:F1ED:CC3B (talk) 21:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Bennett is already listed as an associated act. It's a very tight definition to be listed there in the infobox, so he probably is the only act that qualifies.


 * If we don't have sources on the new album, it won't be mentioned. —C.Fred (talk) 22:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay man, I get it. -63.896.72 17:31, 30 August 2015  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100C:B01B:9DF3:D41D:AF56:F1ED:CC3B (talk)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2015
You guys have not included in her achievements that she has won the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA) Award in 2011. Lady Gaga is the greatest fashion icon we have had since Madonna. People should be educated on her receiving the award, it's definitely a huge achievement for her and her career.

XOfam (talk) 12:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ This is not that much of an achievement that needs to be included here. It is present in her awards list page. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 13:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2015
Can you please take into consideration to find a spot on Gaga's wiki page to name people who have praised her. Some being U2, Cher, Quincy Jones and Michael & Janet Jackson before his death have spoke highly of Lady Gaga. Beyonce has spoke highly of Lady Gaga in an interview and contemporary artist Sam Smith has cited Lady Gaga as an influence. After her Cheek to Cheek album she had received even more praise, mostly for her vocals and being able to sing in a genre that requires traditional vocal performance. Her creativity and versatility has helped her gain such positive feedback, for an artist this is so important and feel that people who visit her wiki page should be aware of those who have recognized her craft.

XOfam (talk) 19:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That would likely become undue weight. If anything, commentary from critics would be more appropriate to include. If Sam Smith names her as an influence, though, then that's probably worth a mention on his own article as long as it is reliably sourced. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 19:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Wikipedia is not a fan site or a means of promotion for its article subjects. Information here is presented from a neutral point of view considering the balance of all significant viewpoints published in reliable sources. If you would like to make a request for a specific edit, then please make it in the form "please change XXX to YYY" or "please add BBB between AAA and CCC" or "please remove XXX". But also keep in mind that we have a list of awards and nominations received by Lady Gaga already. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2015
Can you take out her cameo role in Katy Perry: Part of Me from her Filmography and add American Horror Story: Hotel, in which she has a lead role in.

XOfam (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The filmography section is for listing films, not television shows. American Horror Story: Hotel is listed in Lady Gaga videography along with her other television roles. When one has a subpage for filmography/videography, the films are listed in the "filmography" section of a bio and the television roles are included in the subpage. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 15:43, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2015
Lady Gaga has just been named 2015's Woman of the Year by Billboard. I think that will go great in her achievements section. She has had an incredible year and this title is definitely worth mentioning in her wiki page. Here is a official billboard article stating what i just mentioned to you. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6714424/billboard-lady-gaga-woman-of-the-year-women-in-music-lifetime-2015

24.189.149.87 (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ we already added it. Thanks. Gaga Nutella talk 01:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Should someone add that she is the first person to achieve two 7-million selling singles? (Just Dance & Poker Face) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.182.53 (talk) 11:06, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That is also already included <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 13:05, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Genres 2
Somebody should add jazz to the genres she sings in her biography :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.224.31.15 (talk) 13:43, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * as states in previous threads, one album alone is not enough for such a listing <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 13:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I disagree. One album is enough to add Jazz to her genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acdcguy1991 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

FA
I think this article is well-written, well sources and nice images. If this article become an FA, It will have a fully featured topic about Gaga. 42.112.130.187 (talk) 00:46, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not ready to become FA yet, but I do hope it have it promoted in time for her 30th birthday and have it be "Today's Featured Article" that day. In order to be a featured topic, though, her list of awards and nominations would also have to be a featured list. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be very iconic if this happen, . By the way, I've nominated her awards list for FL. Gaga Nutella talk 01:17, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem. But I hope it will become a featured article in the near future. :-) 42.112.130.187 (talk) 01:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * So do I. My plan is to work on this throughout the month and go for FAC in December. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good luck! :-) 42.112.130.187 (talk) 01:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Once her accolades page is promoted, we can go for the FTC! --  Frankie talk 13:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2015
Lady Gaga is definitely known for her fashion. Do you think you can add somewhere about her being the first person ever to unveil the first flying dress. I think its important enough and i haven't seen it anywhere else on wikipedia so why not on her page. Here is a billboard link of them talking about it. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5785700/lady-gaga-unveils-flying-dress-volantis


 * ❌ That was completely non-notable in lieu of the happenings around Artpop. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 19:02, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Phonetics?
The three different phonetic guides currently coming after Gaga's name look ridiculuos. For one, there's no way we need three different methods (how is the Italian pronunciation any different? Does it even matter when she's not Italian?) but I don't really think any are necessary. I can't imagine how any English readers would struggle with the pronunciation of "Stefani Germanotta". According to these phonetic guides, it's said exactly how one would expect (nothing ambiguous abuot "Stefani", while the "German" in "Germanotta" makes that easy to read). Personally I think all the phonetic guides should be blitzed; it's forever until you finally get to "...is an American singer". They are just a nuissance to readers. --82.4.111.110 (talk) 14:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Same person here. Well I'm glad the phonetics have been limited to 1, but I still don't see how even that is needed. It's not a hard name to read. --92.19.30.118 (talk) 14:21, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's important to keep it, because in some countries the pronunciation may differ. For example here in Brazil is common to say "Stéfani", other countries "Stefaní"... Thank you. Gaga Nutella talk 15:39, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't find it excessive, either, and I don't know that the pronunciation is obvious to everyone, regardless of native language; while IPA should in principle be enough (and IPAc-en helpfully includes tooltip explanations), there is a strong resistance to IPA among US readers and we keep getting complaints about it, so adding respelling is a good compromise, and the Italian pronunciation is noteworthy as well. (Granted, last year, only the pronunciation of the surname was shown.) Keep in mind that this is a high-profile article and interest in this point may be substantial enough to justify the explanations. Should the pronunciation guides really bother people that much, they could be moved into a footnote, though. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:05, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

edit request on 5 December 2015
I am curious to know why Lady Gaga has not been given a Legacy section. Rihanna has one on her page but Lady Gaga has surpassed her in achievements, recognition and many other aspects. Can we be expecting an update on that soon ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.149.87 (talk) 06:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably because she hasn't had enough of an impact/influence on society. Also, just because another article has such a section doesn't necessarily mean certain others should. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 06:06, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

I can provide many reliable receipts from sources upon her impact/influence on society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.149.87 (talk) 06:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Can you at least state that Lady Gaga is the first artist to receive two solo RIAA Diamond Certifications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XOfam (talk • contribs) 16:55, 5 December 2015‎ (UTC)

Net Worth
The current stated net worth of $110 million is dramatically understated. She has earned $90 million in one year alone. Of course earnings do not directly add to net worth but a more accurate estimate should be given. Several sources cite $250 million as an accurate estimate. Lltnt342 (talk) 17:46, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless a reliable source can be provided, it is not to be added. Celebritynetworth is not reliable. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 17:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Is TheRichest (therichest.com) also unreliable? It's the root source being used for today's additions. —C.Fred (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, and there is a hidden note in the Infobox saying specifically not to add that. It has been repeatedly rejected as dubious. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 00:34, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Grammy and Golden Globe nominations in 2015
In the 2015: American Horror Story and fifth studio album section - can it be added that in December 2015, Gaga received her 17th Grammy Nomination in the Best Song Written for Visual Media for 'Til It Happens To You'; and she also received her first ever Golden Globe nomination for her role on American Horror Story: Hotel.

82.32.140.76 (talk) 02:03, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * for now. It's too early when we don't even know whether she'll win them. Mere nominations aren't particularly noteworthy compared to actual wins, so they'll be added if she wins. However, they can definitely be included in List of awards and nominations received by Lady Gaga either way. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:20, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

RE: Grammy and Golden Globe nominations in 2015
Hi, I just wanted to ask why the above request was refused, when her page is littered with other mentions of nominations for albums and various things which she did not go onto win? It seems a little unfair, maybe even biased, to say in one section that she received a 'Golden Raspberry' nomination for one acting role, but yet refuse to recognise her Golden Globe nomination for her good work... It really would not take much just to add in those nominations under the 2015 section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyjburr93 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

2015 Section Photograph
Could a photograph be added to the 2015 section? Possibly from her role on AHS, or from her Oscars performance? I feel like those were her two most talked about moments of this year.

Here are some I found on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133699916@N08/20414155176/in/photolist-xkkGjM-xkkJMc-xzwdos-xCsjYX-y88Hz3-dojH4i-AwjuoG-b1m4uH-ropG1e-zp4PDq-yumbgb-z9M3GE-zrnPTz-xB1Ly3-r7wKZ7-zgYUtk-xckGmn-zsjWu8-A9yFvb-BNnyCn-wRKzon-x6VE8f-ADhzMB-zwbEjC-A2g166-yMZxuG-rjDpHL-sLntwd-zDwctR-r5BRt4-ro49p8-zu5kc3-rcNyys-xzbDKy-xNdjwA-wcdXay-x9fp84-x9ffKc-wRKMDK-x6VT7G-wcdUed-zx8Kuo-wcdU3G-wRCAcE-wcdVWG-x9fevP-wce7rE-pbA3mv-C32LXt-x9NaFM

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aumanack_photo_show/21840623569/in/photolist-xkkGjM-xkkJMc-xzwdos-xCsjYX-y88Hz3-dojH4i-AwjuoG-b1m4uH-ropG1e-zp4PDq-yumbgb-z9M3GE-zrnPTz-xB1Ly3-r7wKZ7-zgYUtk-xckGmn-zsjWu8-A9yFvb-BNnyCn-wRKzon-x6VE8f-ADhzMB-zwbEjC-A2g166-yMZxuG-rjDpHL-sLntwd-zDwctR-r5BRt4-ro49p8-zu5kc3-rcNyys-xzbDKy-xNdjwA-wcdXay-x9fp84-x9ffKc-wRKMDK-x6VT7G-wcdUed-zx8Kuo-wcdU3G-wRCAcE-wcdVWG-x9fevP-wce7rE-pbA3mv-C32LXt-x9NaFM

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aumanack_photo_show/22001348256/in/photolist-xkkGjM-xkkJMc-xzwdos-xCsjYX-y88Hz3-dojH4i-AwjuoG-b1m4uH-ropG1e-zp4PDq-yumbgb-z9M3GE-zrnPTz-xB1Ly3-r7wKZ7-zgYUtk-xckGmn-zsjWu8-A9yFvb-BNnyCn-wRKzon-x6VE8f-ADhzMB-zwbEjC-A2g166-yMZxuG-rjDpHL-sLntwd-zDwctR-r5BRt4-ro49p8-zu5kc3-rcNyys-xzbDKy-xNdjwA-wcdXay-x9fp84-x9ffKc-wRKMDK-x6VT7G-wcdUed-zx8Kuo-wcdU3G-wRCAcE-wcdVWG-x9fevP-wce7rE-pbA3mv-C32LXt-x9NaFM/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dataheadline/16619915066/in/photolist-xkkGjM-xkkJMc-xzwdos-xCsjYX-y88Hz3-dojH4i-AwjuoG-b1m4uH-ropG1e-zp4PDq-yumbgb-z9M3GE-zrnPTz-xB1Ly3-r7wKZ7-zgYUtk-xckGmn-zsjWu8-A9yFvb-BNnyCn-wRKzon-x6VE8f-ADhzMB-zwbEjC-A2g166-yMZxuG-rjDpHL-sLntwd-zDwctR-r5BRt4-ro49p8-zu5kc3-rcNyys-xzbDKy-xNdjwA-wcdXay-x9fp84-x9ffKc-wRKMDK-x6VT7G-wcdUed-zx8Kuo-wcdU3G-wRCAcE-wcdVWG-x9fevP-wce7rE-pbA3mv-C32LXt-x9NaFM

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyjburr93 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * None of them are free licensed images for Commons. So they cannot be used. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 09:55, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2015
Net worth is almost 5 years out of date, it should be removed or updated to reflect more accurate information, net worth added up from these below sources amount to a 2015 estimate of $317,000,000

2010 Earnings 2011 Earnings 2012 Earnings (based on Forbes information) 2013 Earnings 2014 Earnings (based on Forbes information) 2015 Earnings

The above sources list each year from 2010 to 2015, no information from her career beginnings in 2009 are available. As stated before the net worth needs to be removed due to extremely outdated information our updated to reflect these sources. Mikgregor (talk) 18:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yearly earnings are NOT the same thing as net worth <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:52, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Occupation
Why does Lady Gaga's occupation not include her being a Record Producer, when in fact she has produced every song on The Fame Monster, Born This Way and ARTPOP, as said in all those album wiki pages. She is also a Philanthropist as said in her section of Activism, also a Businesswoman, with her having fragrances and more. She is also a dancer, as seen in many of her live performances and videos.
 * Not a primary occupation unlike Max Martin or Quincy Jones for example. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 10:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Along with what said, we would need a source calling her such. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Associated act, Madeon
Hi, new here, what qualifies as an associated act? She's worked extensively with Madeon off-stage and on-stage.

Madeon was a support act for her Born This Way Ball Madeon produced several tracks for ARTPOP (listed as Leclerq)87.115.117.17 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * An associated act is someone who meets one or more of the following criteria:
 * A group someone has been part of (i.e. Ringo Starr was part of The Beatles
 * A person someone has made a collaborative album with (i.e. Jay Z and Kanye West made Watch the Throne together)
 * A person someone has shared a tour with (i.e. Eminem and Rihanna embarked on The Monster Tour together)
 * A person someone has had at least three songs with (i.e. Justin Timberlake and Timbaland have had several collaborative songs together)
 * Songwriters and producers are generally not counted as associated acts. Madeon doesn't qualify in this case. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 22:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

2015 photo
Hi, can you please add a photo for the 2015 section? I think it should either be a pic of her Oscars performance or from American Horror Story? Not sure what the rules are on what pics can be used but I'm sure one can be sourced.

May also be worth mentioning her role as Guest Editor and Columnist for V Magazine's 99th Edition, set for release on January 14th 2016. It's a pretty big deal for her and boosts her credentials in the fashion world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.107.25 (talk • contribs)


 * As far as I can tell, there are no available free photos of her from either the Oscars or American Horror Story. Regarding the columnist part, let's wait until her piece is released. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:59, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Here's a free image of her performing at the Oscars 146.90.153.174 (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Non-free still since the license is for non-derivative work, which means the picture cannot be used in commons for deriving from its original version. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 15:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Personal life
Lady Gaga began dating Taylor Kinney in July 2011. They first met in Nebraska while working on the music video for her song "You and I", and started dating soon afterwards. They became engaged in February 2015. 67.116.252.77 (talk) 02:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


 * He is already mentioned within the article. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:29, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

2016 Golden Globe
Might I suggest that in the opening summary, that the Golden Globe mention goes directly after the Billboard Woman of the Year win - it reads much better that way and keeps all of her achievements together, before leading on nicely to her philanthropic work/activism. Not much of a change, but it does read much more fluidly - at the moment, the Golden Globe win seems a bit out of place in that opening part, makes sense to put it with her other awards...


 * Be bold.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 19:15, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ perfectly understandable. Also,, the IP couldn't make the edit since this page is semi-protected. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 19:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Most Influential People of the Decade
Since it cited three times in the article including the lead, "Time listed Gaga as one of the Most Influential People of the Decade", I'm not sure is actually accurate. She finished second in a readers' poll called "Time 100 Anniversary Poll", where everyone could vote. The way is written seems to be bigger than the Time 100 list. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 06:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Academy Award Nomination
In the 2015 section, can we add 'In January 2016, Gaga also scored her first Academy Award nomination for Best Original Song along with Diane Warren, for 'Til It Happens To You'. Gaga dedicated the nomination to survivors of sexual assault.'

This is a pretty huge deal for her!

References (if needed): http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/6843680/lady-gaga-oscar-nomination-til-it-happens-you-reaction http://www.etonline.com/news/180037_lady_gaga_dedicates_first_oscar_nomination_to_survivors_of_sexual_assault/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 09:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This will be added after its fate is determined. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 12:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2016
Lady Gaga's net worth is 295 million by 2015 http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/singer/lady-gaga-net-worth/

189.192.62.85 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * that has repeatedly been rejected as an unreliable source. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * And I think its high time we blacklist that pile of shit website. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat  ] 19:35, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Instruments
Obviously, piano should be added to the Infobox. Lady Gaga is primarily known for voice and piano. Such discussions are a waste of time. Israell (talk) 09:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree and will add that. Very prominent part of her career. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 15:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I also agree, and you guys have my support! Keep it. Gaga Nutella talk 21:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Obviously known for piano and vocals. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 01:27, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Years active
Why is her starting year 2001? She didn't start performing or making music under the name Lady Gaga until 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.37.27 (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * She started in 2001 since she starred in an episode of The Sopranos at that time. Uncredited though, but she started appearing in mainstream that year. — I B  [ Poke  ] 17:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't years active be reflective of "Lady Gaga" though? Personally I don't feel an uncredited minor role in her teens is a reflection of when her current career began. 82.132.231.123 (talk) 02:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Even if it didn't get as much recognition as her work on American Horror Story or any of her albums, it was still the earliest part of her professional career, therefore 2001 is used. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

2015-present photo
I have been asking constantly for a picture to be added to this section...and then a photo of her mid-speech, where you can barely make out that it is her is used? Really? I think you guys can do better. The picture from that section needs to come from one of the highlights of her career during that period - i.e. The Oscars, The Golden Globes or American Horror Story.

Come on guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do it yourself.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 18:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the infobox image (IMHO) Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 18:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If free images were available for any of those, IP, they'd definitely be implemented. Copyright issues really can be a bitch :/. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 20:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Early Life
Unnecessarily complex sentence structure in the text about entering NYU at age 17. One of 20 admitted early at 17, she lived in a dorm at NYU. Gofinsc (talk) 23:09, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2016
There is no such word as "orientated". The quote as noted in the Wikipedia write-up is incorrect. It is not the way she was quoted in the original (source) article. That was correctly noted as "oriented", as the comment referencing her style being perceived as too "dance-oriented".

73.51.22.116 (talk) 08:18, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done "Orientated" is actually a British variant, so it isn't wrong per se, but it isn't widely used nowadays. However, like you said, the source says "oriented" not "orientated", so I fixed it nevertheless. -- ChamithN   (talk)  08:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

2015-present picture
This picture of Gaga would probably be better than the current one being used for the 2015-present section, the license allows for all sharing purposes, and the account seems to be legitimate however can I gain some confirmation from other people? Mikgregor (talk) 00:51, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No it is not allowed per CC-BY-NC, its non-commercial usage. Thank you. — I B  [ Poke  ] 10:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, is there a guide to licensing for Wikipedia articles that I can take a look at so I don't make the same mistake? Mikgregor (talk) 10:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You can check in this link: Upload/Flickr for getting which type of licenses are allowed. — I B  [ Poke  ] 10:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Lady Gaga, First Person to perform at the Super Bowl, Oscars and Grammys in the same year
Can you add how Lady Gaga is the first to perform at the Super Bowl, Grammys and Oscars in the same year this year. I have several links from reliable sources.

http://www.nme.com/news/lady-gaga/91305 http://www.rttnews.com/2610223/lady-gaga-first-artist-ever-to-hit-super-bowl-grammys-and-oscars.aspx http://en.yibada.com/articles/102999/20160208/lady-gaga-super-bowl-50-national-anthem-performance-one-highest.htm
 * Trivia. — I B  [ Poke  ] 09:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

What does that mean ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XOfam (talk • contribs) 10:00, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That means it's not worthy of being mentioned here. -- ChamithN   (talk)  16:53, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2016
For Ladys Gagas net worth it is listed at $110 million, this however this is far outdated and is from 2011 seeing as in 2013 alone she was named the top earning celeb in music at roughly $90 million I am requesting it be updated and below you will find several links pertaining to a more up to date net worth of Lady Gagas.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/lady-gaga-net-worth/

the main link I would like to point out is this one    http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/singer/lady-gaga-net-worth/          in it is listed all of Lady Gagas earnings from 2008 which sum up to roughly $295 million.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1675996/lady-gaga-forbes-top-earning-women/

http://www.ibtimes.com/59-million-lady-gaga-ranks-high-forbes-list-top-earners-2015-1989772

Thank you for reviewing my request.

Anthonyhozjan (talk) 04:54, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As has been stated before, celebritynetworth.com and therichest.com are not reliable sources. So, we cannot use them. We also cannot just tally up her earnings, since it doesn't take into account what she's spent. Net worth is what it sounds like: what she's "worth" at a given point in time, what she owns minus what she owes others. —C.Fred (talk) 05:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * can we WP:BLACKLIST these urls so that no one can add it anywhere in the encyclopedia? — I B  [ Poke  ] 09:06, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * @IndianBio: Good question. You'd have to ask at the talk page for that, maybe, or check instructions there; I'm not up-to-date on the mechanics of adding stuff to the blacklist. —C.Fred (talk) 13:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can we just remove that piece of information from the infobox? It provides no value to the wiki considering it is so out of date. Mikgregor (talk) 13:20, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Legacy
@User:MagicatthemovieS Please explain your reasoning for adding new people to the list of those influenced by Gaga? Nobody you are adding is similar to her in any way other than they make pop music. There is no need to edit war. -- Mikgregor (talk) 15:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have removed them, unless third party reliable content can be found specifically discussing Gaga's influence, they cannot be added. I had warned Magicatthemovies previously also not to add it. — I B  [ Poke  ] 16:35, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Lengthy
I believe the article is very long for an artist who has been around for less than a decade. 166k bytes is way too much. I have performed some short trimmings in the lead and in another section. Before I go for more, I would like to discuss it as I wouldn't want that to become a problem in the future. --  Frankie talk 20:02, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It could probably use some reduction. For example, we don't need to go into lost Grammy nominations when A) she already has some wins, which are much more prominent than mere nominations, B) there is already List of awards and nominations received by Lady Gaga. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 21:10, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. My main focus is especially on the Born This Way section being too long. I wanna reduce that so much and club it with Born This Way, Artpop and Cheek to Cheek, because I believe it would flow so much better. — I B  [ Poke  ] 21:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

2016
Would it be possible to say a little more about her Bowie tribute at the Grammys? It feels like it's just been slotted in there randomly without much explanation. He was one of her biggest inspirations so it's probably one of the most important performances of her career. Something like 'Using Intel's innovative technology, Gaga sang a medley of 10 of Bowie's greatest hits, including Space Oddity, Fashion, Let's Dance and Heroes. Her outfits for the performance, designed by fashion designer Marc Jacobs, were inspired by some of Bowie's own stage costumes.'

Also, can it be added that 'On the 18th February 2016, Gaga made her first appearance on the runway at New York Fashion Week, walking in the Marc Jacobs Fall 2016 show.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 14:29, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Bowie may be a large inspiration for Gaga but the performance itself has not proven itself as a milestone in her career, IMO. Mikgregor (talk) 13:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

February 2016
Can a little bit more be said about her efforts this month? With her performance at the 88th Academy Awards, Gaga will become the first ever artist to have played at the Grammys, Super Bowl and the Academy Awards in the same year. References - https://www.yahoo.com/music/lady-gaga-only-artist-perform-oscars-grammys-super-161853597.html ; http://www.nme.com/news/lady-gaga/91305 ; http://www.inquisitr.com/2775689/lady-gaga-makes-history-first-artist-to-perform-at-academy-awards-oscars-and-super-bowl-in-a-year/

Other things of interest: She walked the Marc Jacobs New York Spring/Summer catwalk this month too. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lady-gaga-walks-marc-jacobs-runway-at-new-york-fashion-week/

Also, she performed at an impromptu free concert with Sir Elton John on 27th February on the Los Angeles Sunset Boulevard. http://www.eonline.com/news/743935/elton-john-performs-with-lady-gaga-his-kids-godmother-at-his-surprise-concert-at-iconic-l-a-music-site — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 17:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Only thing worth adding is the Marc Jacobs show. Too much of addition of performing here and there is WP:UNDUE weight, she is a performer anyways. Plus that Grammy, Oscar, Super Bowl thing is such a madeup criteria. — I B  [ Poke  ] 18:02, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

New content
I feel like this article has really lost its way. Any new achievements or career highlights are simply being listed in a couple of words without any description. This is in stark contrast to the pages for the likes of Katy Perry. Also the comment above about her 'not being no Mother Theresa' is so demeaning. She may not be important to you, but to her fans and to the gay community and in light of her Oscars performance and advocacy in promoting Til It Happens To You and its message to sexual assault survivors, she is a figurehead of change. I feel as though this negative perception is coming across quite clearly in the new additions to this article, which is unfortunate because the older stuff is so well written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't feel like Gaga is intentionally being snubbed, she is just not doing as much as she was in previous years (for now). Do you have any particular suggestions for changes that can be discussed? I do however agree that philanthropy is a giant, giant part of her career. - Mikgregor (talk) 12:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Doubles
Is it true that she has Doppelgängers like Gaddafi. User:ScotXW t@lk 07:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. --  Frankie talk 09:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

FTC
Okay I am not sure when/if this article is going to be an FA but I think Gaga deserves an FTC. It does not even matter whether or not this article is an FA as GA would also be enough for her FTC. I am not sure whether I will be here in a month or so and this is one of the last things I want to do -- see this as a featured topic. What do you say? --  Frankie talk 18:06, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm in for what you guys decide. I don't see a problem to not nominated it, of course it would be nicer if this article was FA, but I'm in anyway. And Frankie, is this a goodbye? Gaga Nutella talk 18:42, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Even if this doesn't have to be FA for that, the article does still need brushing up. Too soon for FTC if you ask me. Besides, I still have Featured topic candidates/Overview of Katy Perry/archive1 going on with you anyway. I'm also not gonna be around as much for the next few months. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:49, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * We need strong detergent powder to cleanup this article. — I B  [ Poke  ] 20:20, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * "Strong detergent" LOOOOOOOL Gaga Nutella talk 21:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Would Ariel do? --  Frankie talk 21:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , I have started to cleanup the biography section of the article. Let me know how does it look. — I B  [ Poke  ] 14:42, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I like especially what you have done with TF and TFM section. I would be very happy if the article is brought down to ca. 120k. --  Frankie talk 15:15, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * the career beginning section was especially tricky, but I think I did a good job. — I B  [ Poke  ] 15:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm dying with the detergent thing lol I support your two major edits. I want to work hard on the sources, but I'm gonna wait the clean up first. Gaga Nutella talk 15:33, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Not bad so far. The reduction was definitely needed. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 15:41, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

(→) I have removed a lot of unnecessary information, but keeping in mind the FTC, what do you guys think of creating List of live performances by Lady Gaga? I believe she has enough content that it won't be a CFORK. 5 concert tours, 2 residencies, plus umpteen high profile performances. And not to sound shady or anything, Gaga's live performances are much more discussed in journalism and academics than Katy's so I guess that is a possibility. — I B  [ Poke  ] 16:48, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have already suggested that, and I support you IB. I'm very excited to work on a new list of Gaga. We could follow M or Houston's format. Gaga Nutella talk 17:03, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure on that one but if created, please lemme know so that I can push it to FLC. --  Frankie talk 17:09, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe, though it's probably best to start a draft first and see where that goes. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:00, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The most excited one seems to be GagaNutella. So he should create Draft:List of Lady Gaga live performances. :D --  Frankie talk 18:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Deal! I'm in!!! Gaga Nutella talk 18:51, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Another thing I wanted to talk about is the public image thing. The current section is fine in terms of the structure and all, but I believe it is outdated. I am seeing quite a few articles regarding Gaga's recent transformation following the Artpop era into a more glamorous persona, old Hollywood style etc. We have to incorporate that with proper balance. — I B  [ Poke  ] 22:55, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, we can add it in the end of the third para or so. Could you link to those articles (so that it should be easier) or do that yourself? --  Frankie talk 08:16, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Three links for starting up, E!, Billboard, MTV News. — I B  [ Poke  ] 12:23, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Probably not the best but I have added a line on that. I didn't get longer keeping the length of the article in mind. --  Frankie talk 17:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I would say the opposite, that this needs to have three four lines on the change since it seems it was all calculated bid, while shortening the tedious opening para and the Philathropy section. That woman is no Mother Teresa to be honest. — I B  [ Poke  ] 17:26, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Definitely not a good one but I have added one more line on the change . --  Frankie talk 16:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Update
I think parts of the article require some updates. The last couple of years have seen a real transformation in terms of her aesthetic, and approach to her public image. She has moved away from trying to 'shock' at high profile events, such as Awards shows, and instead has adopted a more 'old-Hollywood glamour' style. I think it all started with her 2015 Oscars performance, and ever since then she has tried to claw back the support of sectors of the public she seemed to lose with ARTPOP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 15:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's what we are discussing right above your comment. We will try to update it at the latest. --  Frankie talk 15:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

2016
Can the following be added to 2015-2016 section:

In February 2016, Gaga also made her New York Fashion Week runway debut, modelling in the Marc Jacobs Spring 2016 show.

Following on from her win at the Golden Globes, Gaga confirmed on US radio that she would be returning for a second season of American Horror Story. (http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/american-horror-story-lady-gaga-season-6) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 22:41, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure what to say about the Fashion Week bit, but the section already mentions how she confirmed returning for more American Horror Story. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 22:48, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

PR
Guys, after a huge cleaning with strong detergent lol what do you think about about a PR? and, thoughts?
 * By all means, yes. I will start it up. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:47, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Personal life
I have just noticed that Gaga does not have a "Personal life" section, like Tayor Swift, Rihanna and other articles. Can we add one? Gaga Nutella talk 22:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Definitely not a good idea. In addition to the fact that it would likely be a ridiculously short section since there's not much to say about her dating life and such, Taylor Kinney is already mentioned in the "life and career" section. Their relationship is intertwined with her career since he appeared in the "You and I" video. Rob Fusari (assuming they were together; only he has stated they were once a couple and Gaga herself never commented on the matter) also helped launch her career and worked with her on The Fame. A common issue with such sections in general is ongoing additions of fancruft, gossip, and trivia. That would likely occur in a misguided attempt to make the section look more complete when in fact it wouldn't be beneficial. It's basically asking for trouble. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I see, that's true! Gaga Nutella talk 03:12, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

2015-2016
Could we add a bit more to this section in terms of how she transformed her approach to public perception to a more nuanced, 'public-friendly' approach - ditching her traditional avant-garde fashion and live performances in favour of a much more classic style.

There have been a number of journalistic pieces recently on her 'comeback' in terms of how she seems to have regained some of the public support she seemed to lose during ARTPOP and I think it would be wrong to ignore this.

Also, and perhaps most importantly, could something be added in respect of her public outpouring of support for Kesha in her recent legal battle with Dr Luke. This support comes from a place of personal experience given that Gaga has confirmed she was sexually assaulted when she was 19 on numerous interviews now. She has also described her performance of Til It Happens To You at the 88th Academy Awards as one of the most important of her career, and said that the response from other survivors has been inspiring. I also note that the fact that 50 other survivors of sexual assault joined her during her performance at the 88th Academy Awards has been missed out. I think this should be added.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyjburr93 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe in the discussion thread above the main contributors to the article are already planning to incorporate her change in her image. I don't see how her support of Kesha is an important part to note in her biography though? Mikgregor (talk) 20:13, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Her support for Kesha is just a part of her more general support and activism to help sexual assault survivors as part of the Its On Us campaign. Allyjburr93 (talk) 21:31, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Gaga's Career Titles:
I've noticed that artists such as Beyonce and Katy Perry, to name just two, have their outside showbiz work credited as part of their career - they are recognised beyond being singers; titled as activists and businesswomen too, for example. Why is this not the case with Gaga? More than any of her contemporaries, she deserves it the most. Gaga is indisputably a political figure (Don't Ask / Don't Tell, LGBT equality ect, ect), pop cultural icon and a businesswoman in her right. In light of this, I think, in addition to 'just' a singer, songwriter and actress, Gaga should be credited as being all of the below:

- Singer - Songwriter - Actress - Producer (she produces a lot of her songs, especially on ARTPOP) - Philanthropist (has her own charity organisation: Born This Way) - Activist (see above) - Artist of the Avant-Garde (in terms of her fashion and artistic direction) - Model - Editor (currently named editor of the year for her work with 'V' Magazine) - Businesswoman - Music Video Director (directs her own music videos) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.4.49 (talk) 23:34, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Small Changes
Hi there, wondering if the following changes could be made.

Remove the word 'Elizabeth' in terms of her AHS character - she was known much more by the name 'The Countess' - I watched the entire series, and can't remember her being called Elizabeth even once.

Also, worth adding after the bit about her editing the 99th edition of V Magazine... that 'In March, Gaga received the award for Editor of the Year for her work on V99 at The Fashion Los Angeles Awards.' It was a pretty high profile event, with stars such as JLo, Kris Jenner, Nicole Richie, Gigi and Bella Hadid, as well as big names from the fashion industry in attendance. (http://www.etonline.com/news/184867_lady_gaga_nabs_editor_of_the_year_at_fashion_los_angeles_awards/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyjburr93 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Very much disagree about removing "Elizabeth"; that was in fact her character's actual name ("The Countess" was really more of a title she used). Editor of the year can definitely be included, but I can't think of a good place within the 2015–present section to add it. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 17:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

After this? 'In January 2016, Gaga was invited to be the guest editor for the V magazine for its 99th issue, which features sixteen different covers.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.140.76 (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ now that I think about it, that's probably the best place <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 00:42, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

30th birthday
Three DYKs -- Til It Happens to You, Teeth (song) and List of Lady Gaga live performances -- and a TFL (List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga) are going to appear on 28th March on her 30th birthday. --FrB.TG (talk) 10:12, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow this is pretty rare isn't it? — I B  [ Poke  ] 10:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was a little bit difficult to convince the admins, and yes it is rare. -- FrB.TG (talk) 11:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * When you can't get TFA, this is probably the next best thing <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 13:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That's HUGE!!! Congrats to everyone involved. I'm proud. I can't wait for this article become a FA. Gaga Nutella talk 01:02, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Update: The page was viewed over 35,829 times yesterday. ツ FrB.TG (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's freaking huge. :O — I B  [ Poke  ] 09:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Queen of Wikipedia lol that's a great number :o Gaga Nutella talk 14:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You can thank the DYKs and the list on the front page yesterday. ツ FrB.TG (talk) 17:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)