Talk:Lady Marmalade/Archive 1

Untitled
Wasn't this banned by the BBC at some point? JFW | T@lk  23:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

About the merger
After having look at the 2002 cover I think it is unwise to merge the two documents, because it will overshadow the original song and I personally think that the original song by LaBelle should be mentioned first, because a cover is build upon somebody else's work and therefore of less importance. KittenKlub 10:53, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with KittenKlub - they're two different things aren't they. Like Imagine (song) and Imagine (Tracie Spencer song). --Bookandcoffee 17:11, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Those aren't two different things, and neither are those two songs. --FuriousFreddy 03:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I've merged the two articles. There appeared to be considerable overlap between the two, and the article on the 2001 cover was not very substantial in terms of text material (apart from unsourced rumour/speculation regarding Aguilera getting top billing on the record). It's better to have the complete history of the song in one place, so that readers won't have to visit more than one article, and it is under the 32kb article size limit (thus eliminating the need for separate articles in the first place). Other articles have a similar format, such as I'll Be There, I Will Always Love You and (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (which is a featured article). Extraordinary Machine 22:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

All Saints
Who is All Saints? Darkchild 10:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

First cover
The history section claims: The song was first covered by Sheila E. on her 1991 album Sex Cymbal. Didn't Sabrina Salerno cover it several years before that – on her 1987 album Sabrina? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.142.195.109 (talk) 21:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Chart positions
Some of the chart positions here seem suspiciously low considering the global success of the song. I've changed the German position, which I know was number one. RobinCarmody — Preceding undated comment added 23:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Right, I've checked the Swedish and New Zealand positions - in both countries it hit number one. Does anyone know where the other charts with the curiously low positions are? Also, I've changed "Austrian Singles Top 75" to "Austrian Singles Chart" (assuming that that position is even correct) - the Austrian singles chart was much shorter in 1975. RobinCarmody — Preceding undated comment added 23:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Session Info?
Does anyone have the session information for the original recording? I'm very curious to know who plays that hot bassline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddy-Rey (talk • contribs) 18:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

nasty naughty boy
Christina Aguilera used the phrase "Voulez-vou coucher avec moi" in the lyrics to her song Nasty Naughty Boy from her album Back to Basics.--Geokaii 06:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Nanette Workman
Nanette Workman has also made a cover of this song, with most of the lyrics sung in French, in 1975. It was a major hit in Quebec, Canada. Official website (with entry for "Lady Marmalade": http://www.nanette.qc.ca/html/main.php?p=discographie.php 207.134.187.165 05:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Use of the second person article "vous"/"tu"
In the article it says the phrase should say "tu" but "vous" is in fact more accurate given the context ie- a prostitute soliciting a potential client is unlikely to use a familiar address, particularly as the song suggests this to be a more up market prostitute so a higher register of speech would probably be sought after by clients. May I change this? And yes I agree with the above point about the reflexive verb as well, so in fact the original phrase as penned by Tennessee Williams is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.46.3.52 (talk) 22:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Wolfgramm Sisters
The Wolfgramm Sisters, backing singers on the Countdown Spectacular tours, perform this song on the Countdown Spectacular 2 DVD. --TrogWoolley (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Labelle : The First Cover
This is not known by many but Labelle was NOT the original artist of this song. This was first recorded by a studio band named The Eleventh Hour in which one of the song's composer's - Kenny Nolan - was the lead vocalist. Kenny Nolan later had a solo career in which one of his singles, "Love's Grown Deep" became a hit. This is not to be confused with Eleventh Hour metal band. The band I am talking about released an album on Epic records in 1974 in which Lady Marmalade is an album cut. The album obviously was not a hit and their version of Lady Marmalade went unnoticed until this cover by Labelle. Bpabustan (talk) 05:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

covers section
I think the John Lennon demo version thats unreleased should be mentioned on this article. its like 40 seconds but I still think its worth mentioning — Preceding unsigned comment added by Signothetymes (talk • contribs) 21:02, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Making the Band 3 Season 2 Episode 2: The song was one of a few to be performed by the 'contestants' in Times Square. The episode was titled 'Times Square Harmony'. Whether this is relevant and belongs here is for you to decide. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.83.85 (talk) 18:27, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

session musicians - bass
In response to the person who was inquiring as to who played bass on "Marmalade"...

It was George Porter, Jr.

The song was produced by Allen Toussaint, recorded at his Sea Saint Studio in New Orleans, somewhere around May of '75 (As far as I know, the studio is still around).

In addition to producing, Toussaint also played piano on the track. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.68.131 (talk) 10:27, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Grammar
"Voulez-vous coucher avec moi" should be correct. "Se coucher" is to go to sleep. Voulez-vous vous coucher avec moi would be "Would you like to go to sleep with me" ie: next to me. Anyone wanna correct this before I change the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.80.89.184 (talk) 00:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

It's been 20 years since I took French, but I think "dormir" is to sleep, and I think that "coucher" is to go to bed. But my memories are hazy so I won't edit the wiki, just thought I'd mention this.


 * Yes, "dormir" is to sleep and "se coucher" is to go to bed. But "coucher" (without the reflexive "se") can mean both to put to bed or to lay down when transitive, and to sleep or to stay/pass the night when intransitive. In particular, the idiomatic expression "coucher avec qqn" means to sleep with someone (almost always implying sex, as in English). If you'd say "se coucher avec qqn", it would simply mean to go to bed with someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.237.162 (talk) 03:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Sabrina
A user removed the entire chart table from the Sabrina section. Why? It was sourced so it makes no sense as to why it was deleted.  Caden  cool  16:11, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

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Fork Moulin Rouge! content?
Thoughts on forking Moulin Rouge!-related content to Lady Marmalade (Moulin Rouge!)? This article is a bit long, and not even fully fleshed out. I'd guess there's more to say about the 2002 cover as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

"Voulez-vous" en anglais
Shouldn't the English translation of the "voulez-vous" sentence be the same in the lead and the later section? But which one should be used? Personally, I would prefer "sleep", rather than "go to bed", but I'm no native English speaker and far less familiar with French. CompleCCity (talk) 01:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Lady Jam?
Why is the woman called "Marmalade"? Is it a monicker? What does it refer to - is it actually the sweet condiment? Thank you, Maikel (talk) 11:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)