Talk:Lake Ladoga

map suggestion
I suggest that the be replaced with one without Japanese katakana on it. I would be bold, but I'm pretty much a text contributor, as I know nothing about where to get legal map image. --Rajah (talk) 15:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/finland_rel96.jpg looks like a decent public domain map to use for context. --Rajah (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Volume estimation
I am not sure about second figure. They could not be erroneous in estimations to such great difference (70 km3) It seems too big to me. I mean that 908 km3 is more reliable or further explanation needed. -Anton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.157.120.18 (talk) 11:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I edited this figures to get correspondence of lake's area (excluding the islands, 17,891 km²), average depth (51 m) to it's water volume. It gives 912 km3. All other things too complex for me. ~Anton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.157.120.26 (talk) 05:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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Etymology section
It looks confused to me. I think it needs serious review and careful rewriting. First it deals with a river name that is not related to "Ladoga". Then it talks about "a city made of lakes", which doesn't make sense.

Then it claims
 * The Old Norse intermediary word between Finnish and Old East Slavic word is fully supported by archeology, since the Scandinavians first appeared in Ladoga in the early 750s, that is, a couple of decades before the Slavs. (Emphasis added.)

"Supported" is impossible since archeology doesn't tell us anything about words unless it uncovers inscriptions; "fully" is an exaggeration and reads like forestalling disagreement. I also don't see how anyone can distinguish a couple of decades at that remove. Does it mean only that Slavs weren't mentioned in surviving documents? -- that is "fully" unconvincing. Zaslav (talk) 20:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The part about Helimski also mixes German with Germanic. Helimski mentions Middle Low German once or twice, but mostly bases the etymology on Old Norse. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 03:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC)