Talk:Lake Oswego Transit Center

Proposed streetcar extension
A paragraph mentioning the proposed extension of the Portland Streetcar line, a proposal mothballed since early 2012 (and unlikely to be revived, in my opinion), was recently added, but I feel that it's not sufficiently relevant to the subject of this article and should be deleted. (For the record: In my opinion, Lake Oswego Transit Center itself is only barely notable. This is very nearly the smallest of all of TriMet's existing transit centers [Barbur Blvd. is smaller in terms of service nowadays, but had a lot more bus service in the 1980s] and has very few amenities. Major TCs such as Beaverton and Gresham are easily notable, by contrast.)  As far as I know, the streetcar extension was not even proposed to run to the transit center, but rather would have ended on State Street, a quarter-mile away from the TC (not a short walk). I checked The Oregonian just now via NewsBank, and from that, it appears that running to the TC was not even among the alternative alignments being considered. So, what is the connection between that (now-mothballed) proposal and the transit center? The subject of this article is not transit service in downtown Lake Oswego; it is the transit center. SJ Morg (talk) 09:40, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * thanks for the attention to this. I added that info; while I was researching it, I felt that it was going somewhere, but by the time I was done I didn't find much. I didn't realize that it had been officially abandoned, thanks for adding that source. I think the info I added is much more suitable for Willamette Shore Railway, and once added there (which I'm happy to do) it might make sense to replace it here with a "See also" entry of "WSR, a nearby rail line connecting Lake Oswego and Portland." Make sense?
 * You also removed the info about low ridership on lines 36 and 37. That, I think, should remain in some form -- but maybe could be stated more concisely. Low ridership of the bus lines serving (and therefore inherent to the existence of) the transit center has implications for its future, and for its utility -- so I think that info is germane, moreso than the trolley info. -Pete (talk) 01:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree, move the info to WSR and leaving behind a simple "see also". YBG (talk) 04:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The information on the proposed streetcar extension is already in the Willamette Shore Trolley article ("Willamette Shore Railway" being a pre-1990 name for the same line) and except for a brief-but-important status update that I added a month ago, it has been there for years. There's nothing to be moved.  As to the info. on ridership on lines 36 and 37, you are welcome to reinstate it. SJ Morg (talk) 18:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * , I am sorry for failing to note your excellent work on that article earlier in my process.
 * What happened is this: there was no redirect from "WS Railway" to "WS Trolley", so it was a redlink here. Although I had seen your article in the past, I failed to find it on a cursory look, so I worked here under the incorrect assumption that your article had been deleted, or I had imagined seeing it. It was not my intention to duplicate your efforts, and I agree that there's no reason for all the detail to live here.
 * All that said, in fact none of the four references I found here are, at present, noted in the "WS Trolley" article. It may be that all the relevant facts are included there -- I'll need to read closely to check -- but I do think it's worth preserving those citations in some form, especially since (I believe) none of them is publicly available online. -Pete (talk) 21:38, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: I have now migrated all relevant info to the WST article. Yes, these are small details; but sources can be hard to track down, so I think it's best to make sure that efforts to find sources do not go to waste. I will now remove the info here, as discussed. -Pete (talk) 22:01, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I think the association between this and the WST was that had the Willamette Shore Trolley been extended to L.O., the L.O. transit center would have moved closer to the end of the line. The present location in the Safeway parking lot is quite silly:  Parking restrictions at Safeway prohibit park-and-ride, not being near the geographic or psychological center of the CBD, and being awkward for buses to get there, maneuver, and return to the arterial roads.  —EncMstr (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)