Talk:Lake View, Chicago

Major Rewrite
I gutted and rewrote the entire article and expanded it to three times the size. I also added a dozen photos I took in Lakeview. --Gerald Farinas 22:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Gallery edits
I changed the caption for the last picture in the gallery. It was incorrectly labeled Clark and Belmont, when in reality it is Clark and Aldine (3 blocks north of Belmont) I also added a bit about a restaurant featured in the picture. DCM0813 16:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed the addition of the Lake View Presbyterian Church image in the gallery. --Gerald Farinas 00:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

North Halstead or Northalstead?
which is the proper or offical spelling? Ace-o-aces 15:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Answer: Northalsted is the correct, proper, and official spelling. Everything is run together here.  It's Lakeview, not Lake View.  And it's Boystown, not Boys Town.  The same is true with Northalsted.  (BTW, there's only one "a" in Halsted Street.) --216.220.72.15 00:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Correction: Northalsted, Boystown, are marketing or cultural denotations. None have any official standing. It is true these are one word names, and not two as mentioned. The only Official denotation is "Lake View". It is two seperate words and spelled as such as the name of the official community area ( of Chicago's 77). There is just a difference between what people think and commonly use versus what is official. (Gary Joseph 07:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC))


 * Northalstead does have official standing. Boystown is the unofficial name of the area Ace-o-aces 14:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * There is no place called Northalsted. There is a street in Chicago named Halsted and to describe a particular area, the term North or South is applied. If someone reading this article visits Chicago and asks for Northalsted, they will be identified as an Out-of-towner or Foreigner. Rkm3612 12:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Please explain what "official standing" Northalsted has? The term is simply corporate marketing bull (and bad grammar) foisted upon the area by the Northalsted Merchant's Association. NO ONE who lives in the neighborhood actually spells it in this lame manufactured fashion. Not that Google is an official arbiter of anything, but there are 4 times more pages with "North Halsted" then "Northalsted." Anyone have a reason why it shouldn't be changed to the official postal spelling of "North Halsted?" Viciouslies 02:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have no particular attachment o either spelling. All things being equal, I say we go witn the offical postal spelling.Ace-o-aces 03:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Map
Could we possibly get an updated version of this map with (1) more appropriate licensing tags and (2) appropriate changes in spelling, i.e., change East Lakeview to Lake View East? The article should now explain better about naming conventions. --Gerald Farinas 23:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:US-IL-Chicago-Lakeview.png]] --Gerald Farinas 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Population
If Lakeview is the second most populous Chicago community area, what is the first? --Gerald Farinas 18:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Found it! It's Austin. --Gerald Farinas 18:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

it's Lake View, TWO WORDS!
What is up with this Lakeview as one word business, anyway? I find it annoying that Wikipedia can't figure out how to spell.

Lake View, two words, was a suburb annexed by Chicago. Lake View, two words, is the name of the high school. Lake View, two words, is what the 44th ward alderman refers to on his website.

So, just what bozo is trying to rub out all of Lake View's history by spelling it wrong?

-- Carter (66.158.70.254) 21:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Speaking of the high school, it doesn't merit a mention in the "Lake View" entry? OK, north boundary of Lake View is W. Irving Park Rd.; Lake View High sits north of W. Irving, @Ashland. But, still, it's the only h.s. in the Lake View area to feature that name, right? You'd think there was a reason for that: like, maybe, it's in the Lake View area? 138.162.128.53 (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * That's kinda been mentioned already. Please don't delete a whole talk page just to say one thing. Thanks! -- Crnk Mnky 00:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

It was mentioned, but that doesn't explain why it's happening.

I grew up in Lake View, and quite frankly I find it offensive, it reeks of all that is wrong with gentrification, people who are busily trying to remake Lake View in their own image & who seem to feel a need to put down those that don't fit in their ideal. It matters because to this day I hear people constantly talking about how the yuppies "cleaned up" Lake View, as if it was some sort of hideous ghetto to begin with, when it wasn't. Lake View always had Wrigley Field, the concert venues like the Metro and Vic, eclectic stores and diverse restaurants, etc. And furthermore, it's just stupid. Would anyone rename Lincoln Park as Lincolnpark, or Logan Square as Logansquare?

- Carter


 * >>>Would anyone rename Lincoln Park as Lincolnpark, or Logan Square as Logansquare?<<<
 * Careful; don't tempt them. 138.162.128.53 (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The city of chicago still spells it with two words. I will change the lead paragraph and infobox to reflect that.Ibadibam (talk) 23:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Totom Pole
Does the Totom pole really deserve it's own section? Ace-o-aces 16:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Coordinates
Ctjf83, what lead you to change the longitude and latitude in the article? The ones I had chosen reflected the approximate geographic center of lakeview. It is my understanding that Lakeview extends from Irving Park to diversy and ashland to the lake. Please let me know. Otherwise I'll change it back. Thanks for your other contributions though. Edwardmking 03:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

First gay village?
It's unclear to me that Boystown, Chicago was actually the first gay village in the U.S.; The Castro seems to pre-date it, based on the respective articles. But this information is fuzzy. If the claim is true and should be re-added to the article, it needs to be referenced. -- Beland 07:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Its not that it was the first gay villiage, it was the first officially recognized gay villiage. That is, the city actually based their planning around the fact that boystown was populated (mostly) by gays. That's why they put up the rainbow pylons. Here is a ref though [] Ace-o-aces 17:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's an even better ref [] Ace-o-aces 17:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The claim is true and thanks Ace-o-aces for documenting the reference in the article. Gerald Farinas

Photos
Ok... i think the photography work on this page needs some major help. I'll try to get out and upload some nice photographs. for me, at least, they don't really paint an accurate picture of the neighborhood.

i really like all the references to the street names and historical figures. i added the notes on the civil war soldier camp. what to y'all think??

Hetero Party Atmosphere?
Someone added, "Wrigleyville is Famous for its heterosexual party atmosphere in no relation to its neighbor Boys Town." This statement needs to be reworded and supported by source information. --Gerald Farinas 17:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The Wrigleyville section overall is very poorly done & contains innappropriate wording and unsupported information. The  playwright topic and the reference to Las Mananitas needs to be supported or removed. Also, Las Mananitas is not a "Wrigleyville" establishment. It is very obviously a part of Northalsted. I'm new to editing, but I would be happy to contribute. I am a long time Lake View East resident and community activist.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.242.57.42 (talk) 17:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * New or not, feel free to edit as you feel necessary. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 02:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Addison Street name
Addison Street is not named for Joseph Addison, but instead for Dr. Thomas Addison. Check out Streetwise Chicago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.251.78 (talk) 17:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, but what about other parts of Lakeview?
The intro seems to be all about Boystown. Lakeview East, West Lakeview and Wrigleyville; all three should have a little summary, not just LVE.

Merge last two paragraphs of intro?
It seems to me that the last paragraph repeats much of the second-to-last one. For example, it mentions the gay village as if it needs an explanation when in fact the gay village was already explained in the preceeding paragraph. Let's merge the two or at least get rid of the redundant info. Funisgood256 (talk) 16:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 00:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Brewster address
This is referred to in the "famous persons" list in the article because Charlie Chaplin lived at the Brewster Building briefly. Prior to its renovation in the early 1970s, the main entrance to the building was on Diversey Parkway and the address was 500 W. (not 504). Prior to the street numbering refrom of the early 1900s, when addresses ran from the north branch of the river, the adress was 1900 (East?) Diversey. I have not entered this change. 205.178.120.29 (talk) 23:55, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked on Google Street View, and one can clearly see the 500 W address. I imagine 504 W is the leasing office or something. Corner buildings are often *00 or *01, so I'll adjust the article. Speciate (talk) 19:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Famous People and more
I think Studs Terkel used to live on Pine Grove between Belmont and Briat. The building was the one next to the alley and Rabbi Herman Davis, who was the official Rabbi for the City of Chicago for many years, lived downstairs.

453 Briar, I was told was one of the original farm houses in the area. It used to have the underground shelter with the angle doors in the back yard to enter.

The Curtis Candy company was once located on Briar west of Broadway. Old Tribune article on the origin of the Baby Ruth

Al — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfredmr (talk • contribs) 03:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

It's my understanding that David Sedaris lived in Lake View, possibly near Melrose and Broadway. (Friend told me he mentioned it in a live show, but I haven't found any online reference.)

Also, I know that a number of Blackhawks players live in the area, as did Rosie O'Donnell during her brief-lived Chicago talk show. Do we include these people who are more transient residents? ChgoEditor (talk) 05:48, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

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Delete Sheridan Station Corridor
Delete the entire Sheridan Station Corridor entry. It is not a "Community Area," it is a two-block long business association and this is essentially an advertisement. JSStrong (talk) 18:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Agree, it is a satellite portion of Wrigleyville. WikiReader5000 (talk) 18:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Boystown - etymology
Is it a coincidence, that the name of the gay village is "Boystown"? Unfortunately the article doesn't give a hint. --46.114.37.90 (talk) 09:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The name of the neighborhood used to be Boystown - it's now Northalsted, though many still call it Boystown. Stormykara (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Only the business alliance changed it's name. Neighborhoods can be called whatever the local community identifies as colloquially WikiReader5000 (talk) 18:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Lake View vs. Lakeview
Let's settle this.

The name of the page is Lake View, the official Chicago website writes it as Lake View - therefore I think the primary way to refer to it throughout the article should be Lake View. i.e...

"Lake View, also spelled Lakeview, is one of the 77 community areas of Chicago, Illinois. Lake View is located in the city's North Side."

Ultimately not a huge deal, but I think it'd be a good change to have parity between the title of the article and the official spelling. I wanted to make a talk page post before going through and changing it so we could come to an agreement. Stormykara (talk) 16:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The 44th ward (which is mainly in Lakeview) website uses both spellings. Including in the 44th ward master plan. If you click into the actual plan it has a footnote on one of the pages saying that historically the usage was Lake View but that current usage also includes Lakeview. Personally I don’t see the need for a change if even city officials agree that both are acceptable. Leftygayboi (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)