Talk:Lambretta

Dates?
Error: the opening paragraph states the factory opened in 1999, followed by a move in 1931. 1999 must be a typo, probably for 1929, but I couldn't easily find the correct date so didn't want to make a gratuitous edit. Anyone know the right year?? dnkidd 16:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've marked this for cleanup as there is a large amount of repetition, but it isn't quite a straight duplication so it needs more time than I've got. Thryduulf 07:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Clothing
what about the more recent lambretta clothing line which company produces this? anon.


 * See Lambretta (clothing) - Rgds, - Trident13 (talk) 17:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Name
I don't want to sound like a nit-picker, but Lambretta wasn't a company at all (as the title suggests), but it was a product line. The company was Innocenti. So much is clear in the text, but the actual subject name itself is wrong. What would it take to change it to "Lambretta (Motorscooter)" ? Freakboy 21:31, 07 July 2006


 * Well, Lambretta is a brand of Innocenti - so the name of Lambretta is correct. Rgds, - Trident13 (talk) 17:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Is 'Lambretta' Italian for anything, like 'Vespa' is Italian for 'wasp'?
 * Unknown Unknowns (talk) 12:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Lambretta means "Small Lambro". The Lambro is the river that runs through the plant and, apparently, there was a stream running off that river.

With regard to the company being defunt in 1971/2 it wasn't. Innocenti Lambretta was, but SIL Lambretta continued until 1999. So, if we stick with Lambretta, then we should continue until 1999.

--Siobhanellis (talk) 05:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I thought it meant small something because of the 'etta' suffix. Unknown Unknowns (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The section marked today
This section is incorrect. Scooter India Limited still owns the brand name, etc, to Lambretta (check their web site). An Indian businessman in the USA has the rights to use the name in the USA. Initially he partnered with CMSI Inc, who now have a prototytpe of the L-series, based on the Lambretta GP with a Piaggio/Vespa 4 stroke engine and developed by Lambretta Innovation of the UK. The machines in the USA are rebadged Taiwanese scooters, not from Korea at all.

Siobhanellis (talk) 16:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Just to really confuse things, there is now another Lambretta in Italy, being sold through super markets. These are rebadged Chinese machines. Apparently similar to the machines sold by CMSI inc in the USA under their TNG brand.

Siobhanellis (talk) 23:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed a paragraph that was lifted from the Vespa article. Whoever did it, didn't even change Vespa to Lambretta. While some of the facts in the paragraph may be correct, this is unacceptable.GregCovey (talk) 06:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed the list of "well known" UK scooter shops. Some on that list aren't that well known and the list included a direct link to an external site and it felt spammy. Twoquidtunes (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

GA?
Guys you might want to think about taking this article to Good Article standard - but before you do, you'll need to really get down to providing references from reliable sources. FlagSteward (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Origins innacuracy
The style of the scooter predates the supposed ones given, going back to prewar machinery to some extent, also i'm not sure the reference to the original design being taken to Piaggio is correct, the Vespa predating the Lambretta IIRC?

Also, it may be useful to list the models manufactured with dates. I have Pete Davies's book to hand and can use that if someone can tell me its OK to do so?

Scooternik (talk) 00:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Vespa frame type
Concerning the terminology in the discussion of Lambretta and Vespa frame types, in my opinion the two Wikipedia entries for both Lambretta and for Vespa contain an unclear usage of the term "spar-frame" in their respective sections entitled "History: The Design". For clarity in these entries, my suggested change is to replace the term "spar-frame" with the term "unibody" or "monocoque" when describing Vespa's frame type. My reasoning: Vespa's frame is largely a pressed-steel box structure of said unibody lineage as utilized in vehicular applications. The term "spar" (borrowed from its nautical and aeronautical origins) can be somewhat over-generalized when describing vehicular frame elements, since when composing a frame, its main support structure diversely can be fabricated via sheet, box, solid, or tube elements (even built-up from sub-elements of all four), and further augmented with diverse types of sub-frames. The initial Lambretta frames (excluding the later 1970's J-Range and Luna-Lui-Cometa Range) were clearly characterized by a main steel tube or "spar" (viz. Innocenti's contemporary tubular-steel scaffolding business) onto which branch spars were welded. Thus it is the Lambretta which is better termed a "spar-frame", esp. in its early models. In this context, the terms unibody or monocoque accurately describe Vespa frames and better distinguish them from Lambretta frames. Rwidebrook (talk) 20:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Scooters India Ltd bought the right for Lambretta and Lamby brand. It is not clear from the article as to how and when the Lambretta consortium came own the said brands. I think Scooters India is the legitmate owner of the brands. Please rectify it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.82.4 (talk) 07:04, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Updates needed
The article infobox says the defunct in 1972. But the article has the following unsourced statement "As of 2017, The Lambretta Consortium has re-launched the "Lambretta V-Special" model." which appears to be true as evidenced by the website listed in the infobox. This needs expansion. MB 15:11, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Luigi Innocenti
In expanding Deaths in 1995 I came across this obituary on Luigi Innocenti who led Innocenti after his father died. The article currently does not mention Luigi, and he was apparently the impetus of the Lambretta's popularity in addition to being a lead designer of the model. Given his importance to the model, the article should probably be updated. Hope this is helpful and inspires someone. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:04, 7 July 2021 (UTC)