Talk:Lapland (region)

Merge with Sapmi (area)
A merge of this article and Sápmi (area) was discussed in Talk:Sápmi (area), but no consensus was reached. Labongo (talk) 07:04, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

"Lapland" is not a Sami word...
...nor do the Sami call themselves "lapp". This term was used by outsiders, (i.e. non-Sami) to describe them. Please fix this or I will remove it. Dinkytown (talk) 19:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The phrase "comes from..." was apparently intended to mean "refers to...." I've fixed the text. - Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It is a sourced sentence, and I don't think there is a dispute of the origin of the name Lapland from Lapp (Sami). You just seemed not to understand the sentence. --SM (talk) 12:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Is this article about Lapland or Sápmi?
"Lapland" traditionally only refers to certain areas in Sápmi - in Sweden and Finland. Finnmark (Norway) and Murmansk (Russia) have recently began marketing themselves as "Lappland" due to the success of tourism to Finland's Lappland. Areas like Troms, Nordland, Trøndelag and Jemtland-Herjedalen, however, have never been referred to as Lappland - though they are part of Sápmi.

This article seems to be based on the misunderstanding that Lappland is coterminus with Sápmi (which already has a lengthy wiki page). It needs cleaning up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.156.29.128 (talk) 14:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Expansion/correction
This article had certain issues.
 * Claiming Lapland to be coterminus with Sápmi is an extremely Finnish- or Swedo-centric point of view. The majority of the Sámi live outside these countries, mainly in Norway, and do not at all consider their home areas to be part of "Lapland". It is simply erroneous (see definitions of Lappland vs. Sápmi in the Store Norske Leksikon - the most authoritative Norwegian lexicon) to claim that the two are the same. The article has been rewritten to remove this Finnish/Swedish bias, which expands "Lapland" to include areas that the term traditionally has not covered (in Norway "Finnmork" was used, and in Russia "Dikaya Lop"). Reference is still made, though, to the fact that some do understand Lapland as larger than it is.
 * Content had been copypasted from the "Sápmi" article, which obviously does not fit this article. Text has been altered to reflect the new subject.
 * The article was a stub. New categories and data have been imported from other wikipedia articles about the subject Lappmarken/Lappland. Hopefully, someone will continue this work.

There is much to be said about Lapland, and this cultural region deserves its own wiki article. But Lapland is not coterminus with Sápmi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.156.29.104 (talk) 09:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Map
Adding a map to this article would be a capital idea. Even better would be a dual map that shows the reader the differences between Lapland and Sápmi.--Hokeman (talk) 00:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Don Laird also documented it is also the spiritual home of Santa Klaus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.87.112 (talk) 17:20, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Derogatory
"The name Lapland refers to land inhabited by the Sami people, formerly called Lapp people, which is now considered derogatory..."

Why is it considered derogatory?Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:02, 22 December 2011 (UTC)