Talk:Large blue

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Trying to reach "good article" status
I have tried to increase the scope of the article by adding several new topics while increasing the amount of information in existing sections. I added a Distribution heading with subsections of Habitat and Extinction/Conservation. I also added a considerable amount of information to the Behavior section. I also was able to correct some of the things mentioned below, but have not gotten around to all of the suggestions yet. In the upcoming weeks I plan on adding more information, organizing the article, and eliminating repetitive sections in an attempt to have this article reach "good article" status. Additional feedback and all help would be appreciated. -Maximilianzhang (talk) 04:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I went through and tried to add citations where I thought they were necessary. I also deleted sections that were repetitive and not cited properly. I also went through and added links as I saw appropriate. In order to organize the article, I added subheadings under the Predatory Strategy section.Maximilianzhang (talk) 04:22, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Your contributions to this article are great. The behavior sections are well written, concise, and informative and the addition of the Distribution section is excellent. Furthermore, I like what you have done with the Host-Parasite Relationship section and the organization of the article overall. The only problems I see are in regards to your opening section. I think that you may need to add a bit more and summarize more what you talk about in your article overall. I was given this link upon having my article reviewed for good article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section. Although it is lengthy and very detailed, it seems helpful in achieving a "good article" intro section. Morganclem (talk) 02:41, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

As I was peer reviewing this article, I added wiki-links to a number of the countries, helping further interconnect this into the wiki world. Npatel92 (talk) 18:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Adding taxonomy, as well as an image of the caterpillar, might be helpful. Crieber (talk) 23:35, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Work on the behavior of the butterfly
Hi, I am an undergrad working on this page for one of my classes. I added a considerable amount of information on the parasitic behavior. The information I added was compiled with the aid of a number of sources, and I think it addresses some of the things mentioned on this talk page. I wasn't sure exactly what to do with what had already been on the page so I have left it for now. I plan on continuing to contribute to this page and any input on how to organize/format the article would be welcome.Maximilianzhang (talk) 19:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I added subheadings to the host-parasite relationship section to break it down and make it easier to understand. --Vpandrangi (talk) 15:42, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Overall good article with lots of effort put into it. Here's a few small things I noticed. “the purpose of such behavior is to mimic the pheromones of ant larvae that will workers in the future” Fixed the sentence, added become in between will and workers.

“secretes semio-chemicals” I belive semio should be semi? If not, elaborate on what semio means because I couldn’t figure it out.

Ant colonies section is a little redundant, it pretty much restates what is mentioned earlier.

A lot of your references have been repeated, but the refs aren't referring back to the same source in the list when they should be. For example, there's multiple listings of a few of your sources in your ref lists, this usually results from not using named ref tags. I would definitely go through and comb through all the references to make sure they’re named, and that all the future refs use that same named ref tag. This makes the ref section cleaner and less confusing. It’s also something they’re nitpicky about for a Good Article. Just a heads up Jabes808 (talk) 05:16, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The opening section needs a citation, and the “Subspecies” section should probably be incorporated into the opening. The “Description” section needs a citation, and if a citation cannot be provided, then it should be deleted. In the “Brood Parasitic Behavior” section, the last sentence is lacking a citation. In the “Female egg-laying behavior” section, grammatical changes were made. In the “Larvae/caterpillar stage” section, grammatical changes were made. The “Hibernation,” “Typical host plants,” and “Ant colonies” all need citations, but the whole “Host-Parasite Relationship” should probably be deleted since it does not have citations and since there is much overlap between what is said in these sections and previously in other sections. Morganclem (talk) 22:23, 10 October 2013

Version 0.5 nomination failed
Reading it closer, the article is mostly a stub and only one reference so I failed it for 0.5 Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 03:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Importance rating
This is a UK Biodiversity Action Plan species—GRM 14:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

This was on Life Stories
This was on Life Stories, and Sir Attenborough mentioned a parasite that detects whether an ant colony has been invaded, and then proceeds to go for the chrysalis, but I couldn't quite catch the name. What was it? 82.139.86.208 (talk) 11:23, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

That was the Ichneumon wasp. The word 'invaded' seems seems wrong. The ants collect the caterpillars and bring them into their nests. Caligo 09:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Repetition
The article repeats the life cycle of the insect and should be edited accordingly. In one of the life-cycle descriptions, it states that the caterpillar 'seeks out an appropriate ant nest' - the caterpillar seems rather to allow fate to intervene. In one life-cycle explanation, the caterpillar eats eggs and larvae only after hibernation; in the other, it eats them before. Caligo 09:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caligo (talk • contribs)

Edits for Behavioral Ecology Course
The Wikipedia entry on the Large Blue Butterfly starts off by discussion where the butterfly is found, and how it went extinct in the UK, but was reintroduced by conservationists. It then goes on to describe the life cycle of the organism (caterpillar to butterfly). Under the heading “Biology”, the article goes in depth about the relationship between the blue butterflies and the red ants and the precarious balance their relationship falls on. However, the relationship described in the article is slightly different from the one in textbook. The textbook describes the butterfly as a brood parasite that mimics the queen ants to get resources. The article, however, states that the organism must act like the queen otherwise it will get eaten. It would be best if the article could maybe include more sources in its discussion about the butterfly/ant relationship. Confusion about this relationship is reflected in the discussion section of the article, but the questions proposed in the discussion section have yet to be addressed. This article mainly focuses on the one parastic behavior of the Blue Butterfuly. I would like to see more information about its other behavior, such as breeding, migration (if any), predation, etc. Katheefwah (talk) 19:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Great job with the page. I simply went through and added a few missing links and changed a few spelling mistakes. I tried finding some images of different stages of life for the large blue but it seems a little bit more difficult than other butterflies. I do recommend it though since it is really helpful in understanding. I also recommend breaking up the sections into smaller subsections as a large block of text is more intimidating than smaller chunks. Good work! Jychoe90 (talk) 07:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

This page on the large blue butterfly is overall very thorough and detailed. There is a lot of behavioral information, and I was especially interested by the description of its parasitic relationship with red ants. Although adults live for a much shorter time than larvae, the article could be improved by including a section on adult behaviors, such as mating, dominance and/or cooperation strategies, and interaction with predators. Also, even though feeding is mentioned throughout the sections on their parasitic behavior, it could be useful to have a titled section on feeding for readers specifically interested in that information. EmilyKathryn (talk) 04:08, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Endangered
Someone who knows how to should alter the Taxbox to show the species is endangered. Proxima Centauri (talk) 11:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Reintroduction into the UK
In the introduction it says it went extinct in the UK and was later reintroduced, but gives no details. In Conservation it just mentions that it went extinct in the UK in 1979. The next time it mentions the UK, it is to say "it is currently critically endangered in the UK as well as Europe", without giving any explanation as to how it went from being extinct to critically endangered.

64.223.91.164 (talk) 01:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

The image of distribution range
The image showing the distribution range of this species (File:Maculinea arion distribution.png) may contain incorrect information and does not demonstrate verifiability. See also File talk:Maculinea arion distribution.png. --森津 (talk) 08:54, 29 September 2021 (UTC)