Talk:Largest cities in southern California

Expanding Proposal
I am proposing expanding the article to include the 75 largest or potentially up to 100 cities, does any one disagree? House1090 (talk) 00:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. There is already a content forking nightmare going on with these lists of cities in California. See these articles:
 * List of largest California cities by population
 * List of largest California cities by area
 * List of largest California cities
 * List of incorporated cities and towns in California
 * List of California cities by population
 * And there are some more I haven't listed.
 * I think instead of putting any more effort into this list, which ultimately is arbitrary both in terms of what's in southern California and how many cities to include, effort should be focused instead on List of incorporated cities and towns in California. That article seems to be the "correct" one to me. Perhaps another column should be added to that article to allow a user to sort the cities by area of the state, and that could serve the same purpose as this whole list. Granted, you'd lose the pictures, but those are just filler for this list anyway, and would still be in each city's article. Ultimately, maybe this southern California list ends up getting redirected or deleted. Darkest tree (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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I agree with your proposal, however, I think that this list needs to be expanded to include all of Southern California.

Kern County, San Luis Obispo County, & Santa Barbara County are also every bit as much a part of Southern California and should be included on this list.

These counties are all below the northernmost latitude line of the top of San Bernardino County, which is clearly recognized as a Southern California County. Look at a map and you will see a continuous border line across the top of SBD, Kern, and SLO Counties from the Pacific to Nevada.

Also of note, these counties also have offices of the Automobile Club of Southern California, as do Tulare County, Inyo County, and Mono County, as well. These 3 latter counties are debatable as to whether to include them on a SoCal list, as they could be considered Central Cal just as well. But Kern, SLO, and SBA counties are all quite difinitively SoCal both culturally and geographically. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.7.243 (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Disagree with further expansion of this list. See my comment above in Talk:Largest cities in Southern California. Darkest tree (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Merge Proposal
I propose that this page be combined with Southern California. There is no need to have a separate list for the larger cities. House1090 (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I would be more inclined to leave this list as a separate article, and remove the list of cities from the Southern California Regions section, but include a reference to this article. People don't normally refer to cities as "regions", so it seems odd that they are listed under the Region section anyway. MissionInn.Jim (talk) 05:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that we're on the right track here with reducing the content forking on this subject, but I think instead we should concentrate on List of incorporated cities and towns in California. See my comment above in Talk:Largest cities in Southern California. Darkest tree (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

'Close' but not 'in' Southern California
One city Indio is becoming of economic importance, as its' population growth is among the highest in the state. Indio could tie or be the 60th largest city (the last) on the list within the 100 to 150 mile radius of the Los Angeles-San Diego areas. Indio is a city 20-25 miles east of Palm Springs in the rapid-growth desert area of the Coachella Valley.

Sometimes associated with Southern California, two cities of Bakersfield in Kern County of the San Joaquin Valley being north of L.A. county, and Santa Maria, California on the Central Coast of California could be included, but it is not on the list. According to the 2010 US Census, Bakersfield has 365,000 people, while growing Santa Maria have reportedly surpassed the 100,000 mark with more people than Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo.

On the US-Mexican border and state boundary with Arizona: Tijuana across from San Diego at over 1.5 million, and Mexicali, Baja California (its' capital) around 500,000 residents; and Yuma, Arizona has 80,000 residents. 71.102.3.122 (talk) 04:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Indio, yes, that is generally agreed to be in southern California. Bakersfield, maybe. As you said, it's in the SJ Valley, and I think primarily considered part of that region. Santa Maria, I don't know. Santa Barbara and anything north may or may not be considered part of southern California and there is definite debate on the subject culturally. As for Tijuana, Mexicali, and Yuma, I don't see why those deserve mention in an article about the cities of southern California. I am regretfully deleting the sentences you added at the bottom of the list, as they only confuse this already-arbitrary article further. Darkest tree (talk) 15:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Los Angeles and Indio, CA
The state's largest and US' 2nd largest city has surpassed four million residents in 2017, but it could have five million if you have under-counted and seasonal residents. 12.218.47.124 (talk) 02:24, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Los Angeles county has 10-11 million residents, of course the county seat is Los Angeles. It is called "86 suburbs in search of a city", but it can be 8 or 9 counties (like San Diego) in search of one, Southern California as a megalopolis has 16-18 million residents. 12.218.47.124 (talk) 02:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Indio might surpassed 100,000 residents in 2017, the city known for 3 things: the Riverside County Fair and National Date Festival in Feb., the BNP Paribas Tennis Open in Mar. in nearby Indian Wells (pop: 5,000) and the Coachella Music and Arts Fest in Apr., while there is the town of Coachella (at 60,000). Indio has polo clubs along with nearby La Quinta (pop: 50,000) and the Coachella Valley's largest city Palm Springs (pop: 50,000) as well its center Palm Desert (pop: 50,000). And finally, the area's second largest city is Cathedral City (pop: 65,000) next to affluent Rancho Mirage (pop: 15,000) and the state's worst city to live, Desert Hot Springs (pop: 25,000) 10 miles north of Palm Springs. 12.218.47.124 (talk) 02:30, 14 August 2018 (UTC)