Talk:Larry King/Archive 1

Larry's shoulder
What is up with Larry's right shoulder? Is there a physical deformity of some kind? --67.40.162.156 (talk) 02:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

7 Wives
On the episode of the NBC game show "1 vs 100" which aired on 2/9/2007, the final question of the first round was "who had more wives?" The answers were a) Henry VIII b) Larry King and c) Michael Jackson.  The correct answer was b) Larry King. They indicated he had seven wives. Henry VIII only had six. It seems to me that as of 2/9/2007 this wikipedia article indicates he only had six wives. I just wondered which was right?
 * He's had six wives, but he's been married seven times. He married one woman twice. Ydorb 19:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Religion?
Does anyone know what Larry King's religion is? I heard rumors that it was Roman-Catholic but can't "find anything online.
 * He has said, on air, many times in the past that he was agnostic. "He doesn't know."  He was born Jewish.  His current wife is Mormon.

I recall hearing him say he is athesit...and that he does not believe in a afterlife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.46.89 (talk) 05:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC) I would like to know if there is an accessible archive of radio Larry King. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.59.196 (talk) 01:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

40, 000 interviews?
40,000 interviews? If he interviews 1 person per day on average, it would take him 109 years; if 2 persons per day, it would still take him 54 years. --A Reader
 * He's been on the air for over 45 years. For many of those years he would be on the air for 4 hours/day.  I think 2-3 interviews per day is not unreasonable.  The 40,000 number was on his bio page at CNN.  To quote from that page, In 2000, King's 37 consecutive days of political coverage during the election recount in Florida featured 348 guests. So, during that stretch he averaged almost 10 interviews/day. Ydorb 00:14, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)


 * Zing!* Even today, he has a lot of guests every day, so it doesn't appear totally unreasonable. Note though that Larry has some regular interview partners, who come back many times, so the number of guests is of course smaller than the number of interviews. 84.115.129.76 09:19, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Parents
I reverted an edit claiming King's parents were from Austria. According to this site they were from Russia as the article originally claimed. --W.marsh 02:50, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Celebrities and sensationalism
I appreciate the work done here, but the article is utterly devoid of the less 'esteemed' aspects of his work. I understand the need for a NPOV biography to not include a debate about entertainment-as-news, but what I'm addressing here is a lack of accuracy in the overall picture the article portrays. It is not representative of his entire career, and absent the equally large but largely irrelevant portions of his work, from Richard Simmons to the Scott Peterson jury, the article creates a misleading impression of Mr. King's career. To suggest that his sitdowns with celebrities involved only people of actual cultural significance (Jordan, Gleason, Carson, etc.) is obviously not accurate. --Knuckle Bean 19:42, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Legal and Financial Troubles
Can anyone explain why the section on "Legal & Financial Troubles" was removed on 17 November 2005? The section was removed in its entirety with no comment. The section discussed King's involvement with Louis Wolfson & Jim Garrison.

The section previously read:

In the early 1970s, he was entangled in legal and financial troubles. He was arrested on December 20, 1971 and charged with grand larceny. The charges stemmed from a deal he had made with Louis Wolfson. In 1968, Wolfson was convicted of selling unregistered stock.

The circumstances are unclear. According to King, he told Wolfson that he could arrange a special investigation by John Mitchell, the incoming US Attorney General, to overturn the conviction. Wolfson agreed, and paid King $48,000. King never delivered, and couldn't pay back the money. When Wolfson was released from prison, he went after King. According to Wolfson, King served as an intermediary between Wolfson and New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison. Garrison was investigating the assassination of President Kennedy, but needed to raise funds for the investigation. Wolfson offered to pay $25,000 to help fund the investigation. The arrangement was that Wolfson gave Larry King cash (about $5,000 per visit). King was supposed to give this to Richard Gerstein, the State Attorney for Dade County. Gerstein was to transfer the money to Garrison. This took place over a year or two. Wolfson eventually found that not all the money he gave to King made it to Garrison.

The larceny charge was dropped, because the statute of limitations had run out. But King pled no contest to one of 14 charges of passing bad checks.

As a result of these troubles, he was off the air for three years. During those three years he worked several jobs. He was the PR director at a race track in Louisiana and he wrote some articles for Esquire Magazine, including a major piece on New York Jets quarterback Joe Namath.


 * I restored this and some other deleted text to the article. The deletion appears to be the work of a vandal.  Thanks for catching this.Ydorb 18:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I removed this text:
 * King attempted to sue syndicated radio host Leonard Romano for supposedly ripping off his style. Romano and King came to terms on the situation when Romano promptly said, "Up yours, suspenders boy!" and kicked him in the crotch.

If this is true, please add a date, court, etc. When did King sue him? Which court? What is the source of this? Ydorb 18:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I just have to say... this particular section is very poorly written, especially compared to the rest of the article. I don't know how, but could someone flag it for cleanup? Especially the sentence that says "He worked a serious of odd jobs" ? -J 15 June 2007 i have to remove the section as per WP:RS read:"Wikipedia articles[1] should rely primarily on reliable, third-party, published sources."Bw213 (talk) 03:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Notable Guests
I think the list of notable guest appearances on his show needs to be revised. Former president Bill Clinton isn't even listed. Also, Larry has received thousands of journalism and philanthropic awards, which should probably be covered.

Someone removed Malcolm X from the list of people he has interviewed. See http://www.usatoday.com/community/chat/0927king.htm for evidence that he did interview Malcolm X. Ydorb 19:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Farting
I removed this assuming it was an inserted joke: "Larry has quietly persevered for many years, with great dignity, both in his daily life and professional career, despite suffering, since childhood, with severe gastric infections otherwise known as IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome) or Malabsorption Syndrome. Never the one to be embarrassed by life's peculiarities, Larry has often been said to have a bit of a flatulence habit while on air at CNN, which isn't curbed by having guests in the studio. A favorite moment of his, and an often repeated story, involved an interview conducted with former President Jimmy Carter who, after some length of time in studio, chided Larry & asked him to please stop, or he'd have to end the interview. Larry ever present in the moment adeptly steered the conversation to global warming and the effects of bovine emissions on the ozone." A transcipt of the show shows that the conversation never took place, and there are no Google references to Larry King and irritable bowel except for his guests. I am assuming this is the type of well written disinformation that creeps into Wikipedia and eventualy ends up being repeated (no pun) as canon. I would have not even read this section, but the ampersand caught my eye. Didn't anyone read it and get suspicious? Or does everyone just pass it bye? What d you think? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 01:11, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I also removed this:


 * In 2003, Larry was presented with The Jewish Journalists Federation of Greater Los Angeles Simon Wiesenthal Award, for distinguished careers in journalism. The award was presented by Larry's long time (childhood) friend, from Brooklyn, Dr. Philip Mermelstein, a renowned heart surgeon, who practices medicine in Buffalo, NY.


 * This was inserted, along with the farting nonsense, on 2005-11-29 . Attempted to verify, but came up short.  Also found a non–GFDL-compliant mirror site (http://www.worldhistory.com/articles/Larry%20King) in the process.  &mdash; MSchmahl 19:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Decline / No Longer the King of Cable News
I removed this unsourced assertion by User:160.136.109.105:
 * Larry King's loss of public interest is due largely to the advent of internet blogging and the unprecedented success of Fox News.

This may very well be, but we need a source for it. Cleduc 22:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC) Can't source that assertion as it's phrased - it's kind of common knowledge, like sourcing that the sky is blue - maybe a phrasing more along the lines that the rise of FNC has hurt King and CNN's ratings would be more appropriate? - but here are the latest ratings showing numerous cable news shows on Fox News and on CNN with more viewers: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_wednesday_october_11_45492.asp Here's another - one year average ending in 2005: Larry King Live beaten by numerous Fox Shows: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/2005ranker.pdf Reading the article as is, one is left with the impression that King was, and still is, the KING of cable news. He hasn't been for some time, and in this sense the article coud certainly be improved.

"Owl"?
"The Owl," while it might be a nickname for Larry King, is not widely used enough to appear in the bolded name right at the beginning of the article. People generally refer to him as "Larry King." It's not like "The Owl" is like an alternative or stage name. Acsenray 19:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"The Frog" is the preferred nickname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.77.67 (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

larry king
was paul harvey on larry king he is not mentioned here.Spiddy 18:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Rumor
I heard a rumor that Larry King will be posing nude for Play Girl. Is this true!?
 * I hope so! Larry King is a sexy beast!!--MoMo the Pirate 05:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Here are the photos: http://p206.ezboard.com/f247forumfrm1.showMessage?topicID=444.topic
 * Barf!
 * Hurl!
 * Vomit!
 * Those are the worst photos I have ever seen!

The thing about Larry King being a sexy beast is only an opinion, as is anonymous' presumed sickness of looking at them. They aren't Wikipedia worthy. The fact that there is a rumor, maybe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.206.206 (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Role in films?
Should we add a section about the various movies he has been in?(particularly in shrek 2 and 3 as Doris the evil stepsister)Coolchriswow 00:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

marriages
Will someone please explain why this sentence is passable?

"King has been married to six women, and has been married seven times."

so... King had 1 gay marriage? this makes absolutely no sense and I vote it gets removed. "so do it yourself" you say. well, I would, but I'm a bit of an novice around here so I'll leave the big articles alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.101.98.236 (talk) 19:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

He married one of the women twice. Alene Atkins was his second and fourth wife. Ydorb 19:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It's weird that this article has absolutely Nothing on his personal life whatsoever... 71.53.0.55 (talk) 02:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC) source [12] does not look credible. do we have any other articles?Bw213 (talk) 03:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

"He also has three adult children from previous marriages: Andy and Chaia (with Alene Akins) and Larry Jr. born November 1961 (with Annette Kaye), whom King first met in 2009.[13] Larry Jr. has three children.[12]"

How did he have a child in 1961 with some one he first met in 2009? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassenpfeffer1969 (talk • contribs) 08:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
Can someone add an infobox with some details and maybe a picture? I know many of the pictures of him around are fair-use, but in his millenia of existance, there must be some free ones around :). Shrumster 10:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Information I'd Like To See Added
When did Larry King stop interviewing people of any consequence and just focus on being a celebrity fluffer?--203.70.49.85 04:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I would like to have is stance on politics is, is he democratic or republican? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.122.209.84 (talk) 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

religion
Am I the only one who thinks a person's religion is an important part of an entry about them? Or is the author of this entry ashmed of King's being Jewish? It should certainly be mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kap1984 (talk • contribs) 09:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

King is ethnically Jewish, religiously agnostic. Don't mix them up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.244.143 (talk) 03:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Place of birth?
On IMDb, it states that Larry King was born in Brooklyn, New York. Unfortunately, there is nothing about his place of birth on the wikipedia article. What is Larry King's place of birth?--Sli723 01:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * His place of birth is indeed Brooklyn, according to these sources:   .--  Blue a g 9  (Talk) 05:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Pic of Larry King
Someone should fix the picture of Larry that was just put up, It could use some editing. Don't know how to do it myself. Good picture of him. BrianGV talk  18:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Controversy section needs citations
This section was extremely biased so I cleaned it up a bit, but it still needs a bunch of sources. When we post negative things about people, that is the time it is most imperative to source. Also, it presented completely false information regarding the Clark-Larry King suit. Let's adhere to WP:BLP and not risk WP:LIBEL. Thanks. -Bluedog423Talk 04:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up, Bluedog, whoever you are. Redgrave was not part of the suit as you changed it in the entry. Information has been corrected and sourced, and your tag removed. JohnClarknew 14:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Reverted The "Powder Puff Style" section per WP:REF
"Biographies of living persons should be sourced with particular care, for legal and ethical reasons. All negative material about living persons must be sourced to a reliable source. Do not wait for another editor to request a source. If you find unsourced or poorly sourced negative material about a living person — whether in an article or on a talk page — remove it immediately! Do not leave it in the article and ask for a source. Do not move it to the talk page. This applies whether the material is in a biography or any other article". ... from WP:REF   Actually, I'd Like to see some sources on this, could be true... BrianGV talk  23:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Revert to June 15, 00:05 article
Repeated edits by same user - trying to be humorous - fabricated stories about King's life. It wasn't actually that funny and I started editing them out, but then there was too much to change such as broken links and a problem with king's mugshot picture. Consequently, I decided to go back to the last version prior to the abuse by the user.

Rob Shepard 07:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable.  Dei z  talk 08:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Quotes
Unsourced quotes removed from the article:


 * "All the other kids were going to college, and I was working at the United Parcel Service. I was always telling everyone, 'I want to be a broadcaster.'"
 * "In the early '70's I had lost all the jobs I had."
 * "You paint YOUR bald spot."
 * When asked by Roseanne Barr about whether he had ever used the Internet, King replied, "I’ve never done it, never gone searching....The wife loves it. I wouldn’t love it. What do you punch little buttons and things?"
 * "Can you OD on Garlique and Welch's grape juice?"
 * "It's the top of the hour, on Larry King Live", a quote he uses to normally start his show.

 Dei z  talk 05:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Different image possibly?
I'm no fan of the man, but the image on this article presently makes Larry King look like a Scarran. 68.187.82.117 (talk) 06:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Court TV
Is there any substance to the 'Court TV Life' section? If it is false it should be removed? Paul210 (talk) 08:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Larry is getting divorced
I just heard it on David Letterman, so it's reliable but I haven't taken the time to look up for another source, just thought I'd put a notice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.70.16.85 (talk) 18:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Category:CNN
I restored Category:CNN, which was removed with the notation "per WP:OC". Inclusion in the CNN category is not overcategorization; that guideline refers to the creation of overspecific or non-useful categories themselves, like Category:Pre-1933 two-digit Virginia state highways or Category:Red haired kings, not inclusion in a particular category.

In any case, King is a major personality on CNN, and others with their own show are included the category, like Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, and Jack Cafferty, along with a half-dozen or so lesser-known correspondents. --MCB (talk) 04:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Larry King worked for WAHR in Miami before he worked for WIOD.
There is one thing wrong with the biography posted here. I knew Larry King in the 1950s and listened to him on his first station which was WAHR-AM (not WIOD). I am not sure of the AM dial assignment.

Larry has said that his first radio show was in May 1957. It's the same year that I became the co-host of a successful children's television program called "Popeye Playhouse" on WTVJ, Channel 4, Miami, which debuted in January 1957. I don't know when Larry became part of WTVJ's sports team, but assume it was many years later. Larry and I were introduced by one of the salesmen at the television station. As I recall, we went out on one date, but the relationship never progressed further.

In the summer of 1971, when Larry was doing his 1AM to 5AM program on WIOD, he pleaded with his early morning audience to bring him some coffee and donuts. I did so -- and quite accidentally hung around almost every night to become his unpaid screener (the person who answers calls prior to going on the air). I also did some of the first "woman in the mall" interviews using an hour-long tape cassette which was played during Larry's 4:30AM-5:30AM final hour.

Larry was arrested a few days before Christmas in 1971, and Ellen Kimball, using the pseudonym Ellen Rainbow, a slight corruption of my married name at the time -- RABOW -- took over his program several nights a week while WIOD was interviewing other male hosts. I've come across some old newspaper clippings from Herb Rau's Miami Daily News column which document this. I have scanned them in and posted them at this URL: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/Radio_Lady/EllenStoryCollage-1.jpg

As a result, I was heard in Boston, asked to interview for a job at WEEI-AM, the CBS owned and operated radio stations. I was hired as the first woman radio talk show host with a full-time daily call in show. My date of hire was May 15, 1972.

I've read other articles on Larry which have confused his first employment status. A few months ago, I read someone's book which clarifies this whole subject, then lost the citation. I'll try to look for it again. I believe Larry is scheduled to release his own memoirs on Father's Day 2009. His early employment is not such a big deal, but perhaps later in the year we can set the record straight here on Wikipedia.

Larry King will be 75 years old this month on November 19, 2008.



Ellen Kimball (talk) 06:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Open letter to Germany
In the nineties, Larry King was one of several prominent signatories to an open letter accusing Germany of Nazi-style discrimination against Scientologists:. Could we mention this at some appropriate place? Jayen 466 12:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Someone care to explain...
This:

On April 12, King received the John Morrison award. Larry King Live became the first major network to interview current World Champion, John Morrison of World Championship Wrestling. The two discussed among themselves regarding steroids, Starrcade, Jeff Hardy and even the possibility of Morrison using performance enhancing drugs. It was the interview of the year.

Because there are about eight things wrong with it. Not the least of which include John Morrison never being world champion, and World Championship Wrestling closed down about two years before he went pro, making Starrcade of no relevance to him whatsoever.24.29.219.27 (talk) 03:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

number of interviews
40,000 really? Over a 50 year career that's 800 interviews a year, which seems extremely large a figure. Can someone check the accuracy of this? I'm thinking it's out by a factor of 10 or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.218.93 (talk) 01:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

800 x 50= 40,000. The figure is correct77.97.84.38 (talk) 21:37, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Correcting Number of Wives and Marriages
The list of Larry King's marriages is as follows (seven marriages to six women): Shawn Southwick (1997 – present) Julie Alexander (1989 – 1992; div.) Sharon Lepore (1976 – 1984; div.) Alene Akins (1967 – 1972; 2nd div.) Mickey Sutphin (1963 – 1967; div.) Alene Akins (1961 – 1963; div.) Frada Miller (1952 – 1953; annull.)

With the recent publication of his book, Larry King: My Remarkable Life, King has received much publicity about his "long lost" 47-year-old son, Larry King, Jr. Larry King, Jr. was born in November 1961 during the elder King's brief marriage to the late Annette Kaye. Annette Kaye is not listed in the list above. Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/05212009/tv/meet_larry_king_jr__170253.htm, May 21, 2009

The New York Post also says, "King, who's been married eight times to seven women..." This would be consistent with a marriage to Annette Kaye.

Under Personal Life in this article, the following statement is made, "Larry King has been married eight times to seven different women according to a TV interview on the Today show May 23, 2009."

I have found it impossible to determine when this marriage occurred. (I've not read the book.) Does anyone else know so that info about King's number of marriages and wives can be matched up? Mrs. Peel (talk) 05:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Biography
Early days: incorrect using of source [2]. LK said "It was a very cultural Jewish life. " have to change the articleBw213 (talk) 03:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Marriages
"He also has three adult children from previous marriages: Andy and Chaia (with Alene Akins) and Larry Jr. born November 1961 (with Annette Kaye), whom King first met in 2009.[13] Larry Jr. has three children.[12]"

How did he have a child in 1961 with a woman he first met in 2009? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.248.24.161 (talk) 07:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He didn't- note the closed parenthesis. Larry met his SON that year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.100.184 (talk) 16:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Legal and financial troubles
The omission of the former section by that name is conspicuous by its absence. I don't really disagree with the removal because it is unsourced, but can't some sourcing be found for it? I'll take a look myself.--JohnnyB256 (talk) 01:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I find this strange too. I recall hearing that he was found guilty of something in 1971, fraud I believe it was. Here's his mugshot at the time:
 * Seems like this should be included in the Wikipedia article. JettaMann (talk) 12:32, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Jenkins
Sunday Aug. 23rd. I am watching the Larry King show, and you are discussing the disaperaance of a model. Supposedly killed by her husband Ryan Jenkins. Well at 9:05 pm word is out that he was found dead in a hotel room by suicide. Why aren't you taliking about that. Is the show tapped? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.143.132 (talk) 04:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Autobiography
What is the name of his new autobiography? He talked about it on Jimmy Kimmel Live! --77.127.199.119 (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * King talked about it on radio program Brian Lehrer WNYC, the bio is called 'Truth Be Told: Off the Record about Favorite Guests, Memorable Moments, Funniest Jokes, and a Half Century of Asking Questions' In that radio interview they talked about him using a Spaldeen as a kid in Brooklyn, but the Spaldeen page says that the ball wasn't introduced till he was 16 years old, and it would not have aquired that nickname till some years later. Might be a false memory, though I'm sure that India rubber balls existed or whatever they were called back then. 68.174.97.122 (talk) 14:49, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

divorce
remvoed divorce claim for the time being. an entertainment blog thats not verifying, but rather reporting that tmz is reporting doesnt even come close to wiki:blp. I'm sure if true there wil be many reliable sources to come so a little patience wont hurt anyone 209.121.225.250 (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Sandy Koufax
I've heard it attributed to Sandy Koufax that he's "never met" Larry King. Can anyone find a reference one way or the other?

Here's a source:

http://www.usatoday.com/community/chat_03/2003-02-20-leavy.htm

Jane Leavy, author of 'Sandy Koufax: A Lefty's Legacy' says during a chat with the USA Today Book Club:

Gainesville, GA: Would Sandy ever consent to being on the Larry King Show? What an  hour that would be!

Jane Leavy: Not likely considering their divergent accounts of their high-school relationship.

Dell, OH: Did Sandy really know Larry King?

Jane Leavy: They attended the same high school in Brooklyn and had friends in common. They were not in the same grade or class and if they knew each other at all, it was not well.

So, can we at least qualify the claim about Larry King & Sandy Koufax being childhood friends?

named after koopa king thing
Took out the "named after koopa kid" thing. It was even taken out on the koopa kid page because it's just fan speculation, and not fact, which is what it's often passed off as in wikipedia.

Radio Show
I distinctly remember (because it was odd phrasing) that, at least in the later years, King's radio show open topic segments were called by him "Open Phones Americas" not "Open Phones America" as it states in this article and others on the Web.



Anyone listening in early 1987 (after he returned to the air from bypass surg.: March or early April), when he made a bizarre comment about Ecuador? King was suggesting that we could avoid confrontation with other countries (Iran-Contra was just splitting @its seams) by making an example of (as he saw it) a nondescript country like Ecuador: bomb it into oblivion; then whenever another nation got feisty, we could trot out the lesson of Edcuador. "Remember Edcuador," quoth Larry.

I also remember him having Angie Dickinson in the studio & how he used to go on this endless cadence about Duke Zeibert's, a jazzy D.C. bistro. Whatever his faults, Larry was more listenable on radio than on TV.

Both on radio and on TV, if Larry gets a dead line or prank caller, he will never go immediately on to the next call - he will always ask the guest a question himself, go to a commercial, etc. Some kind of old school avoid two on-air mistakes in a row lest the show grind to a halt thing?
 * I spent many hours listening to that show. (703) 685-2177

Affair
I can't find a source for the "and I didn't know she was a woman" quote in that paragraph, as it seemed to suggest that he was having an affair with a man. Given misconceptions about his marital history, I tend to think that this was some sort of puerile joke by homophobes or an honest misunderstanding. I've removed that part of the quote, and I felt I should explain why here. I am not normally a wikipedia editor.

Cryogenic Preservation
I'm not quite sure why this is in the 'Controversial positions' section. It seems like it'd be more appropriate in the 'Personal life' section. Sfazzio (talk) 18:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the same thing. How, exactly, is this a controversial position? --Glenn Xavier (talk) 19:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't. I'll move it out. JettaMann (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Age
I believe he is at least in his eighties by now, as he was in his sixties twenty years ago. Could someone please verify his age for this website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.47.58 (talk) 03:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Avoiding edit war
I reverted good faith edits by an IP user, and he reverted my reversal. His changes are currently pending. I think it is more in line with WP:MOS to not use the IP user's changes. I will leave it up for others to decide, though, as I prefer not to engage in edit warring. The changes are visible from this diff. -Lilac Soul (Talk • Contribs) 08:30, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I accepted because it's not vandalism, not because I endorse the ip editor's change. Which parts of the change do you feel are poor style? ErikHaugen (talk) 08:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And you are probably doing it correctly in that manner. I disagree with removing the country of birth (doing so is US-centric); with removing his full name from the lead even though it is in the infobox;and partially with combining two wikilinks into one at line 24. The remaining edits (removing spaces from == markup doesn't show up anyway in the final article and as such are irrelevant. Again, I won't change any of this as I prefer not to edit war, at least without consensus. -Lilac Soul (Talk • Contribs) 08:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

60,000 interviews?
A line in the article states that CNN claims that he has conducted 60,000 interviews in his career. Larry is 77 years old, or around 30,000 days old. 60,000 interviews? Really?  Making The Mark  •Talk  19:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Agnostic vs. Jewish
Those more into WP's religion standards or Mr. King's personal life can make the call, but when did agnosticism become a religion? And when did it become impossible to be agnostic and Jewish? Agnosticism not being atheism, I'm not sure the page's accurate in this regard.22:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Czrisher (talk • contribs)

Participation as Third party Debate Host
I believe that there needs to be a mention that Larry King was host of the first 2012 Third Party Presidential Debate by the organization Free and Equal. This event happened October 23rd, 2012.

Source

Rush Limbaugh may have learned from Larry King
I don't have a source but I remember this from when I used to listen to Larry King's nighttime radio program, probably in the mid to late 1980s. When he took phone calls, he said they were not screened. King said on several days that he had never met Rush Limbaugh. One day King had just told someone that they were off-topic (I forgot the topic). Right after that, a new caller said that this is off-topic too but that he (the caller) is Rush Limbaugh and that he and King had met long ago when Limbaugh was known by another name (maybe his birth name but I don't remember what it was) and was just learning radio and King had given him some valuable advice. In subsequent shows that I heard, when King mentioned Limbaugh King stopped saying that they had never met, and may have acknowledged meeting (I'm not certain of the acknowledgment) although he continued to state his disagreement with Limbaugh. Maybe one of them put this into verifiable print somewhere, either in something for a general audience or in a periodical for the radio industry, or may have mentioned it in a verifiable interview. I only found one hint in Wikipedia that might either relate to or contradict this: Talk:Rush Limbaugh/Archive 10. I did not Google this or check literature databases. I'm posting this, virtually identically, at the other host's talk page, too. Nick Levinson (talk) 19:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC) (Corrected syntax: 19:42, 4 May 2013 (UTC))

Interesting anecdote linking King and JFK
From this AMA on Reddit: "''It was a Sunday morning, and I was a young disc jockey in Miami Beach. Me and 3 friends of mine were going to drive up to Palm Beach, in 1958, we rolled up to Palm Beach in a convertible, I was driving, and it was a beautiful Sunday morning. And I was looking up, looking at all the beautiful homes, and suddenly I bumped into a car stopped at a red light. I was only going about 10 miles an hour. The guy in the car jumped out, walked over to me, and said "how could you hit me!? there's nobody on the road, it's a beautiful day, how could you hit me?!" and I said "I'm sorry, we were looking up, I apologize, do you want my license." And he said "no, I'm Senator Kennedy, I'm going to run for President in 2 years, and I want the 4 of you to raise your hands and swear you'll vote for me." Which we did.''"

It is probably too anecdotical to be included in the article, but I was wondering wether an AMA on Reddit would be an acceptable source (I mean for some other more relevant information). I think Reddit has a method to control the identity of the person doing the AMA, so in principle I would see nothing that would make it an excluded source to say "According to Larry King, blah blah blah".

What do you think? Maybe it is a question for the Village Pump. Asavaa (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Still Alive :)
I was wondering if this guy was alive and, well, I guess he is! I hope he stays that way for a long long time. Peace Out!--68.118.188.188 (talk) 01:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Radio show
Editors of this page may wish to know of the page on King's mutual show at: Larry King Show. That page needs more content and a better image. DougHill (talk) 22:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Cryonics/personal life
Should discussion about cryonics include a comment about the afterlife and atheism? Larry King in 2014 said on Conan(0:15) "I don't believe in an afterlife, and in Feb 2015 on The Breakfast Club (9:00) "I'm probably an atheist" also commenting that Katrina and the Holocaust make him doubt religious claims (picked up elsewhere CT CP) He repeated in an interview released in Apr 2015 (28:00) that he's putting cryonics in his will and said "here, I'm an atheist" and restated that he doesn't believe in an afterlife. -- Aronzak (talk) 19:58, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Also on Youtube channel he's more direct, quoting Karl Marx, calling religion "superstition based on this desire to know you're going somewhere" when people die. -- Aronzak (talk) 20:11, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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Lead sentence
An editor has been edit warring over the first sentence (coming in under a new username moments after being blocked under the first) regarding how King's name should be expressed. See WP:BIRTHNAME for how we normally write the first sentence when the person has legally changed his or her name, as compared to a stage name or professional name. The article clearly says that King changed his name legally, so the correct expression is: "Larry King (born Lawrence Harvey Zeiger November 19, 1933)." The talk page is here for discussion - edit warring, especially sockpuppeting - is not ok. Tvoz / talk 07:48, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Why is this pseudonym-intro. format supposedly "better than the MOS itself" and all the other articles that follow it?
(See headline.) Wanna Hertz Donut? (talk) 07:48, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Please read and stop edit warring. He legally changed his name - see WP:BIRTHNAME and dozens of examples across the encyclopedia. Tvoz / talk 07:52, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

larry king - controversy
Larry King did pro-Yanukovych propaganda in Ukraine in 2011, just after arresting Tymoschenko. He was paid 225000 usd for it from ‘black ledger’. I believe this is worth to mention. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/larry-king-got-225000-to-interview-viktor-yanukovychs-pm-says-ukraine-politician — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.131.128.28 (talk) 10:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

"RT America is established as a non-profit organization and is funded by the Russian government."

The BBC and many media outlets are government sponsored. It's embarrassing that Wikipedia falls into this American anti-Russian propaganda. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and unbiased. This is nothing of the sort. Sure you can cite pro NATO news sites that follow that narrative, but surely Pravda would carry similar anti-U.S articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan-klasson (talk • contribs) 12:51, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2016
The Info Box does not include the date for his divorce of Southwick (2010) which is referenced below in the article (ref 92) Dmaszle (talk) 05:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The article currently says On April 14, 2010, both Larry and Shawn King filed for divorce, but have since stopped the proceedings.  Based on that text, the divorce did not go through.   Murph 9000  (talk) 13:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

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Regarding RT's registration as propaganda
I'm unsure of why this is included on King's page. It should absolutely be on the RT page. It seems superflous until it becomes relevant due to criticism of King's participation after the fact. Thorrand (talk) 02:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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Allegations of Sexual Misconduct
Larry needs a new subsection to document the news.... Let us eat lettuce (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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Legacy
The way the end of the article is written, one would think he was no longer living.. Genetikbliss (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Grand larceny charges (dropped)
I think we're entitled to a few details about what he did or didn't do. Valetude (talk) 23:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2021
This sentence is out of date information: 'According to CNN, King has conducted more than 30,000 interviews in his career.'

According to CNN (now), King has conducted more than 50,000 interviews. TaylorSearle86 (talk) 15:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Semi-protection-unlocked.svg Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details.  Terasail II &#91;✉&#93; 11:38, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021
Change "Simmonds" to "Simmons" in the first sentence, second paragraph of the "Miami radio and TV" section.

Marshall Simmons was my uncle (brother to my mother, Carol Simmons), and cousin to Chester Simmons, the founder of ESPN. 73.253.112.237 (talk) 13:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: The source provided for King's name change mentions "the manager" but does not provide a name. Rather than leave unverified biographical info in the article, I removed the name entirely. If you have a reliable source for the name, please provide it in a new edit request. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021
He did not receive an AIDS diagnosis, according to the articles cited. It was a COVID-19 diagnosis. 67.171.88.122 (talk) 13:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I don't see anywhere in the article that claims an AIDS diagnosis. You may have seen vandalism that has since been corrected. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

PoliticKING with Larry King
https://www.ora.tv/politicking

According to the show's website, the last new episode was in October of 2020. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 14:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:. While the link given does list the last new episode in October (the 29th if I've read correctly) we should wait for an official notice for this. Shows like this often have pre-recorded episodes that may air posthumously, or may air tributes. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021 (3)
Died: Fri, January 22, 2021 (87 years old) 2601:47:4382:68D0:4935:13D3:9E6:29EA (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

What sources are saying that he died on Friday, January 22nd? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 15:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh goodness, you're right. The source that was in the article didn't have a date at all so I replaced it, but yes it's January 23. I interpreted the IP's request as just adding the fact that he died, which was already done. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021 (2)
To "Other Ventures" it should be noted that King was made an Advisor to Questcap (later Medivolve) in April, 2020. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/04/07/2013109/0/en/QuestCap-Appoints-Larry-King-to-Advisory-Board.html 116.48.77.16 (talk) 14:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Are there any better third-party sources for this, to demonstrate relevance/importance? All of the sources I found are verbatim copies of this press release. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: No independent source to add to what is probably just a routine, non-notable "advisor" position. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Cause of death
Some sources including the New York Times, CNN, and NBC News are not specifying a cause of death.

Should COVID-19 be removed until it has been officially confirmed? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed the edit request template because this is not an edit request. The edit request template should only be used for uncontroversial edits, or edits which have been discussed and consensus demonstrated beforehand. You can use an RFC process if you want to tag a formal discussion, but I don't think it's needed for this point.
 * As of now, the article mentions that he was hospitalized for COVID-19, and a few days later he died, but does not say definitely that COVID-19 was the cause of death. That matches how reliable sources are describing the course of events, so while we should not say that he died of COVID-19, we should not remove it entirely. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Can the Deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles category be removed until it has been confirmed? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't see that. ✅. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

It’s alright, and thank you for doing that. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 16:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Somebody re-added the Deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles category again. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 17:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It should be removed as all sources are saying that the cause of death is as of yet unconfirmed. I believe that any reference to his death being caused by COVID should be removed given that it is speculation at best. Jurisdicta (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The Huffington Post via Yahoo is saying that he died after a weekslong battle with COVID-19. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 18:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Controversies section
I deleted it. Not notable in context of a 60 year career. If any of it is, it should be integrated into rest of article. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021 (4)
His occupation section has unexpectedly been removed by mistake, is there by any chance if some one could restore it again?

As shown here: "| occupation = television host, radio host, spokesman"

97.33.117.141 (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021 (5)
Now that his occupations are restored again, there's just one part that needs to be fixed that I forgot to mention by mistake. His first occupation needs to be capitalized.

as shown:| occupation = television host, radio host, spokesman" to "| occupation = Television host, radio host, spokesman"

97.33.65.172 (talk) 20:50, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅, Thanks... just took care of it. Bob305 (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Larry King ITN
ITN. 2 million views in one day. I helped navigate the treacherous waters of ITN, and also improved the article materially. Pulling this was misguided. During his career, he did more than 60,000 interviews. CNN’s Larry King Live became "the longest-running television show hosted by the same person, on the same network and in the same time slot", and was recognized for it by the Guinness Book of World Records. He retired in 2010 after taping 6,000 episodes of the show. And they pulled it from having a blurb. Perverse process. And no credit. Oh well! That is to be expected here. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

COVID-19
Someone re-added the Deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic in Los Angeles again.

Where is the evidence that supports this? MikaelaArsenault (talk) 17:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I should say that it's implicated DrKilleMoff (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There are multiple sources that note the existence of the disease and treatment in him for COVID-19. More can be found. That is indisputable.
 * says "from COVID-19." WP:Verifiability not absolute WP:Truth.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:17, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


 * This request has been answered. However, I'd personally recommend removing the category entirely since it is not a defining characteristic (it's a sad fact, but nothing more); however since that's the subject of a CfD I'll leave it be and see where it gets there. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed it again. Some smaller news agencies are saying he died from COVID-19, but the broad consensus among mainstream sources seems to be that he was admitted due to COVID-19 several weeks ago, and then he died, but they don't explicitly link those two events, and so neither should Wikipedia. King was not exactly the picture of health - just because he was being treated for COVID-19 doesn't imply that COVID-19 was the cause of death, and WP:V needs more than an implication anyway.
 * I don't agree that it should be removed, if the cause of death is widely confirmed to be COVID-19. The CfD is a proposal to upmerge the category, not to delete it. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 17:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I filed the CfD so I should know what its about; see my latest comment there. Again, simply because the cause of death is COVID does not make this cause of death either of a reason for this person's notability or an aid for user navigation. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Conflicting Info Regarding Larry King's Religion
The last line of the Personal Life section states, "King was a Jewish agnostic", but the last line of the Legacy section states, "King said that he was an atheist". Though agnosticism and atheism are similar, in that they both doubt the existence of God, they are not the same thing. Both entries are sourced, though, and I am not the one to determine how this should be dealt with, if it needs to be dealt with at all. I just noticed the discrepancy and wanted to point it out. Thank you. 75.172.19.180 (talk) 18:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

It looks like Larry King mentioned he was a Jewish agnostic and later on described himself as fully atheist. The Legacy section was either removed or combined with the Personal life section. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

correct spelling of last name
Please change Stuphin to Sutphin. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. There seems to be a few problems with this section, but I'll at least just correct the spelling for now. Volteer1 (talk) 08:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Mickey Sutphin and the number of children King had
Firstly, the citation used for most of the information surrounding King's ex-wives in his personal life, is dead. It seems anyway that the information cited from that source regarding Sutphin is wrong (let alone just the incorrect spelling that I've corrected for now). It seems that reliable sources (see 1 and 2) claim that King and Sutphin married in 1964 and divorced in 1966. It also seems that they had a kid together, Kelly, who was later adopted by Sutphin's subsequent husband. This would be easy enough information to add in myself, but that means that he six children instead of five (a mystery described here), contradicting many of the sources in this article. On top of that, I can't seem to find a source that explicitly claims he had six children, although I can find sources claiming he had five and even four. It seems like to correct the information regarding Sutphin would require a lot of this article to be edited, and while I'm happy to do that I'd at least like to confirm some amount of consensus regarding this mess. Volteer1 (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)