Talk:Larry Masinter

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... the "infringing" lines are the titles of publications, false positive. --creffett (talk) 12:24, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Inaccuracy Observation
The difficulty of this article is that the subject of the article, a living person, has objections to a variety of plainly inaccurate statements. Masinter's Report on Inaccuracies of this article.

Since the subject is considered inadequately objective, there is the usual quandary on this matter. I know Larry personally and was associated with him for part of the time from the end of his tenure at PARC and his move to Adobe. I don't have documentary support for the incorrect statements. All I can say is the persons who made them should be required to provide the supporting first-order citations that can be easily confirmed.

With regard to Larry's tenure at Xerox and its overlap with his time in graduate school duration at Stanford, Larry should certainly be a primary source. He should also be reliable on the matter of things he didn't do, and others should have to provide evidence on anything to the contrary.

Orcmid (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2019 (UTC) Dennis E. Hamilton
 * Yup, and you'll see that Masinter himself said as much below. This is one of the rare cases where the subject of an article wants things that look good removed from it, and I agree that if the subject says that something non-controversial is inaccurate, we should probably take them at their word. I'll take a deeper look at this article later today and see if I can find sources to support Masinter's statements. Ping to as well (since you did a lot of the work on this article initially). creffpublic  a creffett franchise (talk to the boss) 13:32, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Retiredprogrammers (talk) 10:05, 12 December 2019 (UTC) Apologies. I made an inference off a citation that was incorrect. He was cited in a white paper but it didn't indicate he contributed to Apache. I just made that correction and a few others on the page. Some of the timeline issues were that I could find citations for work from 76-80 but cited his post and cleaned up everything I think. Apologies for not realizing he was working on his PhD while working at Xerox and that assumption. The "Xerox AI Systems" was incorrectly listed on an ACM page. But obviously he would know better than them where he was! Thanks all.

Edit Request
Please consider the following errors, and please advise how best to get them corrected:

All of the Interlisp work was at Xerox.

My work at Stanford was on the Dendral project as an employee (my Alternative Service). While working in BBN-LISP supported by Teitelman at PARC that I started working on Interlisp at Xerox, while ABD.

My work on document management was almost all for Xerox not for Adobe. I didn't do pioneering work on the PDF format (for anyone).

I wasn't instrumental in the development of the PDF MIME type (I helped publish it at best.)

My work on internet standards through IETF and W3C was over many years, between Xerox, AT&T Labs and Adobe. But it was mainly something the company let me do, rather than product-driven.

Internet standards are not published in "peer reviewed journals", they are reviewed, but for different reasons than peer-reviewed journals.

I never worked on Apache. I never collaborated with Nick Kew or Kim Veltman or anyone else on any book.

A reference to Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol might be useful to add.

Masinter (talk) 22:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC) https://LarryMasinter.net

Reply 8-DEC-2019

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