Talk:Larry the Cable Guy/Archive 1

inconsitency
sorry about the spelling haha but Early life says he moved to palm beach county when he was 16, "southern accent" says he moved to west palm when he was 13, so which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.30.252 (talk) 22:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Humor
I think it should be noted that this guy is not funny. He has tricked everyone into thinking that he is a funny person.
 * No; that would violate neutral point of view. Not everyone thinks he isn't funny anyway. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 01:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Disregard that, Idont Havaname is new here. Feel free to express yourself all over this article.  Cheers!  Paulie&#39;s World 05:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I really don't think this article is neutral at all, seeing as the last line of the introduction says, "he is truely a master of his craft." That is VERY, VERY debatable. I don't know a single person who even thinks he is funny. So I think it should say something like he has gained a wide following since his mainstream debut in the blue collar comedy tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoneandonlydedwinhedon (talk • contribs) 19:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The Fake Accent
Should it be noted that his southern accent is fake? He grew up in Nebraska, which is a mid-western state. He moved to West Palm Beach, South FL as a teenager, but people don't even have Southern accents there either; a good percentage are uprooted New Yorkers, and some from Jersey and Connecticut, and maybe a few have a twinge of a Floridian accent, but that's nothing like Larry the Cable Guy's accent. He even says in interviews that he willingly "turns on" the accent. It should be mentions because it is indeed fake. That is fact confirmed by him. 64.12.116.195 05:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Larry the Cable Guy a "Character", not Person?
Is Larry the Cable Guy just a character that this Daniel person portrays in some real-life situations, like Bob Einstein's Super Dave Osborne, or Sacha Baron Cohen's Borat & Ali G?

And if so, shouldn't this be noted within the page and have the creation of seperate Danny & Larry pages?

RESPONSE REQUESTED


 * This article even has an entire section devoted Larry's "Fictional Family," which is not the real-life family of Daniel, and within some paragraphs it mentions that Larry the Cable Guy's life is entirely fictional. Wouldn't all this info contribute further reason to call "Larry the Cable Guy" a fictional character whom Daniel Whitney portrays in real-life?

Since Larry the Cable Guy is a fictional character Larry's family is his real family because Larry himself is fictional.--Kevin mills 18:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)User;Kevin mills

Hhmmm? Circular logic, I like it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.57.231 (talk) 10:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Feud with David Cross
His feud with fellow comedian/actor David Cross seems notable enough to add, it's also on David's page, and in Larry's book.


 * I don't agree with putting this under a "criticsm" section. Gee, a competitor of Larry's has criticism for him? Stop the freakin' presses.


 * If the "criticsm" section contained criticism from anyone else in addition this individual competitor, I'd say let it stand. The justification that Cross is mentioned in Larry's book isn't very convincing, since the page dwells on nothing else from Larry's book. This entire section serves as little more than free advertising for Cross. Ynot4tony2 (talk) 20:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Out of context?
Saw this passage:

Whitney's act has been criticized for having racist and homophobic elements. In his book GIT-R-DONE, he begins a passage about the Abu Ghraib prison scandal: "Let me ask some of these commie rag head carpet flying wicker basket on the head balancing scumbags something!"

I think Larry the Cable Guy is really really unfunny etc but this is just unfair. The quote actually continues, "Why do you hate us?", making the previous sentence a parody of people who use those words. If you want to find an example of him being racist that's great because he's definitely criticized for that, but that quote is out of context.

Fix Up the Vandalism
There are a number of places in which fans seem to have had their fun. Giving birth to the Antichrist? Mentions of towns in his bibliography? As usual, whether or not the comedian himself is a dunce, his fans sure represent themselves poorly.

It says he lived on a pig farm in Nebraska and was diagnosed in 7th grade as being severely retarded. I don't know about the pig farm (though I find it strange his dad would go from being a pig farmer to being a principal at a private school), but being severely retarded would mean he would probably be incapable of speech. Now I know what you're thinking, he hardly can speak, but it is speech nonetheless.


 * I've removed the reference to mental retardation. Unless mental retardation is confirmed in a very reliable source, saying in the article that he is mentally retarded is a form of Vandalism.  Comments that people have been adding along with saying he is retarded have violated neutral point of view, as well. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 16:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * And I re-removed it after it was put back again. We have to be especially vigilant with vandalism of this nature when it comes to articles on living people, as it could potentially land Wikipedia in some trouble if it's not attended to, like with that article on .. uh, the news guy, I forget off the top of my head.  But anyway.  Without a source, there's no way that can stay. Errick 04:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The article was vandalized again on 14-15 Jan 2008 by some IP-based user names: 75.67.239.230 and 24.252.206.195. The changes were unrelated to the ones mentioned above, primarily in the Private life section and referencing some unrelated person named "Nick Sammon". I reverted those edits but have not issued any warnings to or reported the offending users. SteveChervitzTrutane (talk) 13:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Flea Markets?
I seriously doubt that anyone could have majored in "flea markets" in college. Julyo 21:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Attention
Please follow the page format when adding to this discussion page. Avengerx 00:42, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Git-R-Done
What is the origin of the Git-R-Done Catchphrase? Why is it funny? "Git-R-Done" reroutes to this page, so it seems like there should be an explaination of the phrase. - Anonymous

The origin is more than likely from Get-Her-Done referring to Sexual Intercourse, but not definitly.


 * Nope. In his book he says it just refers to doing anything... whatever you gotta do, do it. Git-r-done. Doesn't sound sexual to me. TenPoundHammer 23:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Although LTCG made the catchphrase "Git-er-done" (sp.) famous, he didn't invent it. I was just watching the movie "Carrie" (Sissy Spacek, circa 1976)....the scene when they are going to kill pigs to get pig blood for the prank, John Travolta specifically yells "Git-er-done" (twice) and then wails on an unsuspecting pig...so it has been around since at least 1976...check it out for yourself!

Greatest Comedian POV
I took out the comment about some people considering him one of the greatest comedians of all time. That's a bit NPOV, obviously. I added in something about the conflict between him and his critics, quoting David Cross and Larry/Dan's response to his critics. I think that's reasonable and noteworthy. - swhite

Controversy

 * sigh* Now the section about his controversial views reads like a criticism of David Cross. Come on people, be neutral. I'm taking out part of the Cross commentary and just leaving the two competing sides without the additional critique from others.

The comment about how he can't be racist because most of his jokes are directed at his own race is pretty ignorant. He is well known for some pretty incendiary talk regarding Arabs. --Jeff Greco 21:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

LSSU Banished List
I believe the part about his catchphrase being on LSSU's banished words list should be shown on his page because it is relevant to the subject matter. It tells people that it's so popular that it's becoming overused. The banished words list is meant to be humorous and show how bad our society has gotten. OutRider2003 14:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * If the catchphrase were really overused in general, then that information would be appropriate for the page. I suspect the phrase isn't overused in general (since I've never heard it), but, either way, the information about LSSU in particular is completely irrelevant. (anon)

Nebraska
Why is his place of birth listed as NY, I was under the impression that it was Pawnee City Nebraska, or is this bad information? as referenced here http://www.comedycentral.com/comedians/browse/l/larry_the_cable_guy.jhtml

http://www.dead-frog.com/archives/2005/06/larry_the_cable.php

http://music.yahoo.com/ar-304341-bio--Larry-The-Cable-Guy?ev=25023071

the iceman 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

charges of racism
"Since most of Whitney's barbs are directed at Rednecks of his own race, charges of racism may be questionable. Whitney has made some off color jokes about Arabs, among other groups."

These two statements seem to be contradictory. I also don't think they really add anything to the article, since the sources are conveniently included, and I think it would be best to take them out. Simply let the reader check the sources if he wishes to investigate the charges further.

I'll do it now, unless someone has other ideas. Ur Wurst Enema 05:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I went to School with Whitney
Here's some information that may help.

I attended The King's Academy in West Palm Beach Florida from 1978 until 1980. This is a private Christian School which encompassed Pre-kindergarten through 12th grade. It was and is pretty well known in the West Palm Beach area as an upscale school. Dann was a year behind me I believe.

Dan Whitney, known then as Danny Whitney, came in about the same time, apparently moving in from Nebraska. Dan's Father was brought in as the elementary school principal there and was there for either 1 or 2 years. I don't remember specifically.

Danny was a member of the Pep Band, where I think he played Trumpet. I was on the Basketball team and remember Danny at the games. He was a fairly popular kid and something of a class clown. I recall being good naturedly heckled on a few occassions by Danny.

I don't think he graduated from King's though my recollection could be faulty in that regard. He may have left when his Dad ceased his position there. In fairness, I think it's important to note Dan probably got free tuition due to his Dad teaching there and it should not be used to build up some of the info I see here, trying to portray him as a rich kid. Not accurate as far as I can see. We had a lot of red-neck types at King's Academy who lived in Loxahatchee, which is west of West Palm Beach and made up at the time of a successful tradesmen and the like.

Through my brothers who were behind me I know the following:

1. Dan went to college in Georgia to a baptist school. 2. He returned to West Palm Beach Fl (Maybe living in Sanford then but I'm not sure) and at some point working as a bellman at a Ramada Inn in West Palm Beach. 3. He was encouraged by friends to try out at the Comedy Club on Dixie Hwy. 4.  He did well and began to be something of a regular. My brothers went to see his act as few times while he was there.

Beyond that, most of the rest of the information I know is already reflected here.

I've tried to contact Dan a few times and to see him following a show here in Washington DC where I now live. E-mail to his web-site get no response. Not surprising, as I'm sure a lot of people try to get in touch with him. I was an acquaintence, not necessarily a friend although, I liked Dan and I'm glad to see him doing well.

My name is Bart Breen. My e-mail is canuckster1127@earthlink.net.

King's Academy information etc
I restored the info on the early life regarding The King's Academy etc. I was an eyewitness. I knew Dan Whitney at this time in his life.


 * Please read Wikipedia's policy on Verifiability. You may have known him and all that information is probably true, but the Wikipedia needs information "published by reliable and reputable sources." If you know the claims to be true and have a first hand account of the claims, it shouldn't be too hard to find an informative source(magazine, paper, book, news report, etc.) that will back up these claims. That will give the article much more authority.--Mitaphane 11:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * "It shouldn't be too hard to find an informative source ... that will back up these claims." That's not necessarily true.  The history of Daniel Whitney is mostly shrouded in mystery, as the only published information about him is about his fictional Larry the Cable Guy character.  Given the speculative nature of Whitney's pre-Larry life, I believe it would be appropriate for eye-witness accounts to be offered on this page - not as verifiable fact, but perhaps only as speculation.  Brash 15:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I think Danny transfered to Berean Baptist School in West Palm Beach after Kings. Berean was even more fundamentalist than Kings Academy. I was looking at a 1982/83 yearbook and it shows Danny as a member of the senior class.


 * That's possible. I have Dan in my 1980 Kings Year Book.  His Dad left Kings before he graduated and I don't think Danny actusally graduated from Kings.  B. Breen
 * You could look in the verifiability and reliable sources info and see if yearbooks (which aren't readily available) qualify as sources that can be cited as to where Whitney went to school. I would think they might, being published sources &mdash; albeit obscure and hard-to-obtain ones. Incidentally, I think there's much to be said for the suggestion to separate the articles on Whitney and his character OR make the article about Whitney with large sections about Larry.Lawikitejana 04:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Video of Daniel pre-Larry
There is a discussion of the authenticity of this video at Snopes:

http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/60/t/001310.html

Thomas the Tank Engine?
In his credits, Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends is listed. Is that correct? I've probably seen every Thomas related thing on earth a dozen times over, (A 4 year old Train Nut for a son will cause that...) and I'm fairly certain I've never seen him credited, and never heard anything similar to his voice (Either in his Larry Persona, or with the voice as a comedian before he took on that persona.)

Also, IMDB doesn't list it for him, or list him as a credit on the Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Page.

If this cannot be verified, I'm really doubting the accuracy here.

Page moves...
Per Naming conventions, we are supposed to use the name by which he is most well-known as the title of the article. I've moved the page back to Larry the Cable Guy. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 01:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree with this page move. Isn't it more encyclopedic to use the person's real name?  Larry's a fictional character, we don't see William Shatner listed as Captain Kirk.  If "Larry" really needs an entry, maybe the article should be split off into entries about the character and the actor.  From Naming conventions: "It is important to note that these are conventions, not rules written in stone. As Wikipedia grows and changes, some conventions that once made sense may become outdated, and there may be cases where a particular convention is "obviously" inappropriate."  I believe this is such a case. Rob T Firefly 02:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Larry the Cable Guy is credited as Larry the Cable Guy. William Shatner was credited as William Shatner, right?   Not Captain Kirk.  On the first episode of Blue Collar TV, Larry the Cable Guy was credited in the end credits as Dan Whitney, although in the beginning of the show he was identified as Larry the Cable Guy; all subsequent episodes that I have seen have him credited only as Larry the Cable Guy.  Also, comparing current Google News hits heavily favors "Larry the Cable Guy" (272)  over "Dan Whitney" (8)  or "Daniel Lawrence Whitney" (1)   Comparing regular Google searches gives similar numbers.  "Larry the Cable Guy" gets over 2.4 million hits  compared with 638 for "Daniel Lawrence Whitney"   and 43,200 for "Dan Whitney" .  So he's definitely going by Larry the Cable Guy. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 19:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

git-r-done
I think the phrase git-r-done should be a seperate page altoghether even though larry does use it a lot(too much actually) he didnt invent it

I agree it should be it's own page. What does it mean? Mathiastck 21:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering that too, I've never heard of Larry, but I have heard/seen git R done alot, what the hell does it mean?

Dont talk like that you profane idiots, and it is spelled bastard. Git R Done is a catchphrase used by Larry the Cable Guy No one seems to truly know the origin or meaning.

I agree that there should be a seperate page for the phrase. Also, please limit your profanity and sign your comments with four ~s. JohnWardlow 17:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

If you mean me, that was before I joined --Kevin mills 01:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Kevin_millss

Blue collar status
-from main page-"Further criticism has been charged as his bona fidese as a Blue Collar comedian, since his success and merchandise has brought him great sums of money."

The blue collar status is not his financial status its the group he's with. Also the type of comedy its not high brow comedy its "blue collar comedy" None of the guys in Blue collar comedy are hard up for money. This statement should be removed. If inaccurate criticism is allowed you could have pages and pages of misconstrued and inaccurate rumors and verbiage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.163.213.245 (talk) 02:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Recent edits changing his origin
Specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Larry_the_Cable_Guy&curid=1200093&diff=93395041&oldid=93055776 (I'm not sure how to make that a regular link), many dates were changed to nonsense, and several references to Nebraska were changed to a different city. Subsequent edits restored the dates but didn't change the cities. Are they still correct? Errick 05:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There should be a controversy section on this page. This man is very offensive to many people, myself included because of his remarks about homosexuals and disabled people. These offenses should be noted. I tried to put an entry in for this, but I got accused of vandalizing the page (in case anyone is asking why I don't do it myself).


 * Gee, a comedian said something and someone somewhere got offended. I'm shocked, I tell you.  Shocked.


 * Get a grip. You don't see me, or people like me, wanting to add a controversy section to George Carlin's page because he mocks religous people, white people, conservatives.  I could make this same criticism about a vast majority of comedians, but I don't.  Humor is humor, and it sometimes offends. Ynot4tony2 (talk) 18:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Gerbil Vandalism?
Is this edit vandalism? Edit is from an IP with a long history of vandalism, and I can find no references to "A Gerbal named GERBONNUS who is covered in WARTS!!" anywhere else on the Internet. But I'd rather not remove this unless someone with more knowledge of Larry the Cable Guy can verify that this is not a legitimate edit. -Trunkalunk 00:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed content from Family list
I removed this element from the list about his fictional family:


 * A Gerbal named GERBONNUS who is covered in WARTS!!

For this reason: 1. It is formatted badly, with words in all-caps. 2. It is unencyclopedic with the unmerited use of exclamation marks. 3. "Gerbil" is misspelled. 4. It is unsourced, and as such, I am not certain it is true.

If this has been removed in error, please repost this to the section:


 * A gerbil named Gerbonnus who is covered in warts.

Thank you! David 21:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Censorship?
There are a few sections where certain words have been replaced by a series of pound signs (ex. "#####"). Is this something intentional or should we looking into reverting some of the text? Justin The Claw 08:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, looks like those were part of an earlier bit of vandalism. Someone fixed part of it, but didn't fix that # signs.  I fixed it just now. Errick 21:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Clarify
The Controversy Section seems incomplete. It does talk about his bigot jokes, but what else about it? It just doesn't seem finished and clear. Thanks, 1312020Wikicop 22:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The Controversy section seems unnecessary. A small college protest not covered by independent media? Looks like an ad for Ball State. Take it down? Wigren 10:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

After looking into the issue more I've decided to 'be bold' and remove the Controversy section. The student protest was attended by all of eight current and former Ball State students.  And follow up information seems to indicate the protest its self was in jest. Not worth the page space.Wigren 13:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Criticism
I visited the page a few months ago, then the "criticism" section was removed. Some angry censors that don't want their baby to be criticized ? Arronax50 01:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Semi-Protection
We gotta semi-protect this page guys, almost every edit these days is either vandilism or a revert. --Ferdia O&#39;Brien 23:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

There does seem to be a lot of vandalism going on here. Fortunately, someone else seems to be on top of this (I went to delete two references to fecal matter, but they were gone by the time I saw them).

I do think I should add that I have seen news coverage of him (I believe on 60 minutes) that indicate that he is actually quite intelligent, and everything he does is an act. However, it seems that his fans are not above vandalising Wikipedia. Considering his upcoming "roast" on Comedy Central, perhaps changing the editing of this page from open to all would be a good idea. 67.160.187.17 (talk) 08:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.187.17 (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Dan Whitney -
I grew up in Nebraska in the 50 and 60's and we had on lone Nebraska Hiway Patroman named SGT. Whitney. Was wondering if they were related. -- Al Griffin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.105.145.36 (talk) 18:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

Dan's middle name
I notice that the entry lists his middle name as Lawrence. Where did this bit of info come from? According to the Lancaster County Assessor, his middle initial is D. Budgiejen 14:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

There's a Daniel D Whitney who owns two adjoining parcels of land in Sanford, FL. The land includes a house set back from the road, which would be good for privacy. My source is the Seminole County property appraiser (plus Google Maps). But I have no idea whether property owner Daniel D Whitney is a comedian known as Larry the Cable Guy. Budgiejen, how do you know that the property owner from Lancaster County is LtCG? Sylvar 11:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm from Lincoln. It's not a big deal for people to see him at the mall or something. Oh, and who else would purchase a parcel of land slightly east of Lincoln for roughly ten times the appraised value ($2 mil)? Here's the link http://orion.lancaster.ne.gov/Appraisal/PublicAccess/PropertyDetail.aspx?PropertyID=113688&dbKeyAuth=Appraisal&TaxYear=2007&NodeID=11&PropertyOwnerID=366056 Budgiejen 04:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking that if you add your assessor plus my assessor, we get a middle initial of D, eh?

On a 60 minutes interview, Larry says that his middle name is Lawrence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.136.179 (talk) 02:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Picture
I have a picture that I think would be cool on this page, but I don't know where to put it. Anybody want to help? http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1428/619171888_50641846ca_b.jpg Budgiejen 16:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

A Southern Minstrel Show?
Seeing as how "Larry" is from the Midwest, fakes his accent, and plays to just about every negative stereotype I've ever heard about the South, would it be fair to describe the Larry character as making fun of the South in a way that, for example, Jeff Foxworthy isn't (i.e., "ha ha, I know someone just like that" vs. "ha ha, look at those stupid backward hillbillies")? Because as far as I can tell, he's just blatantly mocking the South, and yet the South eats it up. I see no mention of anyone ever accusing him of such, but I find it hard to believe that nobody has. 70.50.215.115 22:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC) Frank

Uh, he's not making fun of the South, he's representing himself as a redneck, regardless of whatever you heard. Get you facts straight, geez!\ Anonymus 3:50, 15 March 2008

he's not making fun of the south, but is pretending to be southern to make people laugh, because the accent makes the jokes funnier. he may not be southern, but he is a redneck.68.114.136.179 (talk) 01:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Genre
Genres: Caucasian-American

sure about that? sounds a little strange to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.134.24.111 (talk) 05:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Surname?
The current Wiki alternates between Sammon and Whitney for his surname.

Whitney appears correct. Was Sammon vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.143.103 (talk) 03:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Criticism/Controversy section?
Apparently there was a criticism section which has long been removed for some reason. There's a lot of noteworthy criticisms of Larry which are noteworthy, like accusations of him being racist, homophobic, and anti-intellectual (pandering to the lowest common denomenator), for instance. Some example sources are his fight with David Cross, the "infamous" Rolling Stone article, and the Dead Frog take on his act. Also, he has published a book, "Git-R-Done," in which he responds to David Cross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.20.172 (talk) 08:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've restored this section seeing as it was removed without so much as an edit summary. -- Hinotori(talk) 08:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "noteworthy criticisms"? I'm sorry, but if you can't cite anyone besides a competitor, it's not that noteworthy.  It's not like he's had the ADL, NAACP, CAIR, or anyone else put out a press release against him. Ynot4tony2 (talk) 20:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm close to deleting the entire criticism section. It would make more sense to title it, "The jealous complaints of a much less successful individual competitor."  David Cross is the only person here criticizing him, and has a financial motiviation to do so.  Again, unless their fued was newsworthy in some way, it should be pulled.  And, a single story in Rolling Stone does not make it rise to the level of "newsworthy".


 * So, if you want this criticism section left in, defend it here. Otherwise in a week's time I'll delete this free advertising for David Cross.


 * Oh, and you mention David Cross, the "infamous" Rolling Stone article, and the Dead Frog take on his act. What's the common theme?!?  David Cross!  So, the criticism is definitely in need of a scrubbing! Ynot4tony2 (talk) 20:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You're going to be blocked again if you keep this up. --74.68.132.134 (talk) 15:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree there's no real need for this section... Smarkflea (talk) 18:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Regardless of what the anonymous stalker above says (yes, he follows me across several pages and is obsessed with me), I will scrub the "criticism" section in two days unless someone comes here and defends its inclusion. All it does is demonstrate how David Cross tries to make a bigger name for himself by criticizing Larry and riding on his popularity.  The opinion of Larry's competitor does not merit its own section, as it only amounts to free advertising.


 * I welcome a discussion of the pending deletion, and will hold off as long as anyone wishes to defend the section. I'll have given almost 2 weeks, so it's not like I just wipe out entire sections without begging for debate and discussion before doing so. Ynot4tony2 (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Paranoia and threats asides, you are mistaken. The David Cross criticism is well-documented and appropriately sourced, and is not "advertising."  Cross is not LTCG's "competitor," and you are trying to turn this page into a LTCG fan page.  It's a minor issue, so there naturally hasn't been reams of Talk Page discussion on the matter.  Nevertheless, your vague threat of "I'm scrubbing this info UNLESS..." is childish and nonproductive. --74.68.132.134 (talk) 16:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You mean encouraging a serious debate before making edits is childish and unproductive? Yeah, better I be some anonymous stalker who makes unfounded accusations of sock puppetry and does edits without even trying to seek consensus.


 * I'm reverting back the edit I made. Regardless of how well documented and well sourced Cross's criticism of Larry is, it's not significant. It might be significant on Cross's page, as he's the one constantly trying to associate his name with Larry.


 * Your single-minded attempt to turn several Wikipedia pages into fanpages is now noted. Expect admin intervention shortly. --74.68.132.134 (talk) 16:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I welcome the admin intervention. A look at your edits will show you to be a single-minded stalker, pretty much obsessed with me and Keotach (sp), who makes sweeping edits based on spite with no consensus.  PLEASE get the admins involved. Ynot4tony2 (talk) 16:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Stalker or not, the point remains. A 'fan page' hardly fits the NPOV. Can you explain to me why you think criticism isn't a valid part of this articlem (so long as it's presented neutrally)? 173.50.58.132 (talk) 20:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Trademarks
Souldn't we include his trademark clothes in the article, like his hat with the fishook on the bill and his flano shirts. After all these are part of who he is. Anonoymus 6:37, 24 January 2008

Correction on Tom Whitney
Danny's father Tom Whitney was the elementary school principal at King's academy, not the High School Principal. The High School Principal at that time was David Frazier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.61.48 (talk) 03:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Source?MattDredd (talk) 12:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I was an eyewitness. I was a student at the school at the time. Bart Breen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.61.48 (talk) 07:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)