Talk:Lasombra

Rating scale
As to the quality scale, I would say this article is a C. There's a lot more information that can be added (as well as references) but it's off to a good start. Anyone up for adding some of the requiem Information as well as flashing out the rest a little more?

As to importance, I looked at things like a hierarchy as the article said to do- Vampire: The Masqurade (top), Clans in V:TM (high), Bloodlines in V:TM (Mid). As Lasombra is a Clan and in V:TM Clans are crucial to the game, it's high.

--Lamoxlamae (talk) 22:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * They may be important to the game V:TM, but how important are they in relation to the entirety of the role-playing articles on Wikipedia? I was looking at them in the larger context of the RPG world and the development of RPGs.  This doesn't mean that they are "High" in importance in this case, and likely not even "Mid".  Obviously you disagree with this assessment, but your argument does nothing to convince me otherwise.  And this article definitely is not a C-class article, as there are no references to reliable sources to demonstrate notability of this particular vampire clan.  --Craw-daddy &#124; T &#124; 18:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The "Clans" in Vampire are equivalent to the character classes in Dungeons and Dragons, they are NOT just a story element. As wiki deems fit to allow the character classes of Dungeons and Dragons to have their own articles (Bard (Dungeons & Dragons), etc), there is no reason why the "character classes" of another exceedingly popular pen-and-paper RPG are not notable enough to have their own articles.


 * In addition, considering the large amounts of background info and game-based info on each of the clans, it is NOT feasible to merge them all into one article. In fact, if we were to do so the resulting article would be too big and then go against Wiki standards.


 * Please stop listing all Vampire:The Masquerade articles as non-notable.Flygongengar (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Role-playing games where a discussion is occurring about merging pages in this category. --Craw-daddy | T | 12:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Merging all clans into one page is a bad idea considering the sheer amounts of information on each.

-- Lamoxlamae (talk) 22:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Notability Explanation and Disagreement about Merging and / or Deletion
The "Clans" in Vampire are equivalent to the character classes in Dungeons and Dragons, they are NOT just a story element. As wiki deems fit to allow the character classes of Dungeons and Dragons to have their own articles (Bard (Dungeons & Dragons), etc), there is no reason why the "character classes" of another exceedingly popular pen-and-paper RPG are not notable enough to have their own articles.

In addition, considering the large amounts of background info and game-based info on each of the clans, it is NOT feasible to merge them all into one article. In fact, if we were to do so the resulting article would be too big and then go against Wiki standards.

Please stop listing all Vampire:The Masquerade articles as non-notable.Flygongengar (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)