Talk:Last Exit on Brooklyn

Gyan reference
I have removed the citation to a Gyan Books publication, and added a cn tag. Gyan books is a mirror of Wikipedia content and thus not a reliable source. Please do not re-add the Gyan reference. JanetteDoe (talk) 03:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Frankly, while some Gyan books may contain Wikipedia content, I don't believe this one does. But in any case the ref was redundant, the ref at the end of the sentence verifies the whole sentence, as it was updated recently to replace a previous source which only verified the recipe but which had gone dead, so no replacement ref is needed. Yworo (talk) 07:23, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI
External links/Noticeboard Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:01, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This is to draw attention to the discussion at Talk:Last_Exit_on_Brooklyn.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  14:04, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Is it worth mentioning Last Exit to Brooklyn?
Selby's book? Clearly inspiration for name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.99.86 (talk) 12:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * "Clearly?" what's your source? Irv said it wasn't. Brooklyn Ave actually dead-ended there when the Exit was founded. That was the origin of the name. Skyerise (talk) 18:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * "Irv said it wasn't."
 * What's your source? That would be worth adding to the article. PK-WIKI (talk) PK-WIKI (talk) 18:36, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see that it's "interesting" to add a denial to an article for a claim which is not in the article in the first place, due to a lack of sources for the claim itself. That's a backhanded way to add the unsupported claim to the article. Irv was asked, he denied it. That may or may not have gotten into print in one of the sources already cited. Since you are the one who finds it "interesting", I suggest you be the one to do the actual research. Not all uses of the word "Brooklyn" are references to Brooklyn, New York. The establishment was on dead-end Brooklyn Ave, which wasn't connected through to Pacific St until 1977 or so. Skyerise (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The counterculture coffee shop shares all but 1 letter with the counterculture novel published only three years earlier. WP:ASTONISH indicates that the connection or lack thereof between the two names should be explained if it exists in reliable sources. Naming his dead-end Brooklyn Ave coffee shop as a pun on the name of the famous novel seems likely, but I'd love to read the owner's statement about the names. PK-WIKI (talk) 19:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Neither the alleged connection nor the denial are discussed in easily accessible reliable sources. I'd suggest the Seattle Library newspaper collection. We simply don't have the sources necessary to discuss it. Feel free to do the research. Skyerise (talk) 13:25, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Get Cisski started about his philosophy of The Last Exit _ or his philosophy in general _ and you're in for a long night. In spite of the Exit's bohemian image and existentialist name (a play on Hubert Selby's grisly '60s novel, 'Last Exit to Brooklyn'), Cisski is neither a beatnik nor a bohemian.
 * "I didn't even want to call the place `The Last Exit,`" says Cisski. "Paul Dorpat (the writer and photographer who was about to start the underground newspaper, The Helix, at the time) suggested that. If I had had my way, I'd still call it The New World Cafe."
 * Last Exit, many returns: 20 years and many fads later, laid back U District coffeehouse show no signs of slowing down — The Seattle Times, June 20, 1987 PK-WIKI (talk) 17:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)