Talk:Last will and testament of Adolf Hitler

Trivia
Is there a better word to use for this category? I dont think those facts are trivial, but are definitely worth noting.

How about miscellaneous facts or simply miscellaneous? That sounds more useful than trivia, I think. Any thoughts? Hydraton31 14:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

"Goebbels shot himself and his wife on May 1, in that order." How is that possible? Where is the reference for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Giovanni33 (talk • contribs). Who said that he died immediately? 124.171.150.184 (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Refimprove
Is this article based on François Genoud's book, first published in 1961? Some consider it a questionable document or even outright forgery, see (esp. note 10 on p. 575) and. --El Cazangero (talk) 04:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No it is not . It was based on the sources (as all it does it list what they contain). If you need further citations then use fact rather than refimprove. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The Political Testament Of Adolf Hitler
Does anyone know if "The Political Testament Of Adolf Hitler(http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Testament/00000010.htm)" is genuine, and if so, if it's related to the "Last will and testament of Adolf Hitler"?

According to David Irving the Last Testament of Adolf Hitler is a forgery by Francois Genoud. Whether it is the same as what is discussed in this Wikipedia article is something that I am trying to determine myself.Hadding (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * See the article on David Irving and the outcome of the Libel suit David Irving v. Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt Mr. Justice Gray concluded "Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence". Allegations by Irving do not warrant further investigation. -- PBS (talk) 09:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Regarding the Testament itself, maybe you should read this page. And, you really shouldn't be so selective in your quotes because Mr. Justice Gray also stated on April 11, 2000: "As a military historian, Irving has much to commend him. For his works of military history Irving has undertaken thorough and painstaking research into the archives. He has discovered and disclosed to historians and others many documents which, but for his efforts, might have remained unnoticed for years. It was plain from the way in which he conducted his case and dealt with a sustained and penetrating cross-examination that his knowledge of World War 2 is unparalleled. His mastery of the detail of the historical documents is remarkable. He is beyond question able and intelligent. He was invariably quick to spot the significance of documents which he had not previously seen. Moreover he writes his military history in a clear and vivid style. I accept the favourable assessment by Professor Watt and Sir John Keegan of the calibre of Irving's military history (mentioned in paragraph 3.4 above) and reject as too sweeping the negative assessment of Evans (quoted in paragraph 3.5). But the questions to which this action has given rise do not relate to the quality of Irving's military history but rather to the manner in which he has written about the attitude adopted by Hitler towards the Jews and in particular his responsibility for the fate which befell them under the Nazi regime." (Source 1, 2, 3) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.119.178 (talk) 07:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

umm, shouldn't it be mentioned that hitler's last testament was faked by Francois Genoud? Genoud admitted to Irving that the entire typescript was his own confection saying, "But it is just what Hitler would have said, isn't it?" In other words, Hitler's Last Testament was and is a fake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.71.251 (talk) 03:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * It appears that there are two entirely separate documents with confusingly similar names. On the one hand there's the last will and testament, which includes a political testament.  On the other hand there's the "testament of Adolf Hitler."  The latter document is the one that Irving alleged Genoud had forged.  There seems little point in this article discussing that document in any detail, but maybe there should be a sentence or two distinguishing the two documents.  Kevin Nelson (talk) 03:00, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

1. Since it was found at war's end and was given to Harry S. Truman, then it couldn't be faked. There were 3 copies made.

Francois Genoud's one is a forgery.

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2. "Frau Anni Winter, the head housekeeper at the Prinzregentenplatz apartment." http://www.germaniainternational.com/hitler18.html

Valleyspring (talk) 09:44, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Bormann was a special kind of executor
In addition to this source, it is even noted in the WikiSource page cited in this article that Hitler stated in that last will and testament that Bormann was "given full legal authority to make all decisions. He is permitted to take out everything that has a sentimental value or is necessary for the maintenance of a modest simple life, for my brothers and sisters, also above all for the mother of my wife and my faithful co-workers who are well known to him, principally my old Secretaries Frau Winter etc. who have for many years aided me by their work."2601:447:4080:10:310F:6143:507F:94B0 (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2021 (UTC)