Talk:Laudir de Oliveira

Preposition "de"
For once and for all, folks, "camel case" names do not exist in Portuguese - take the word of an educated Brazilian, hence a native speaker of Portuguese, but if you can understand the language you can also check the official documents on-line at the Brazilian Academy of Letters or the Lisbon Academy of Sciences, the officially responsible institutions that regulate Portuguese spelling and grammar, respectively in Brazil and in Portugal. I assure you that there is no such thing as "DeOliveira" or "DaSilva."

"De" is the preposition "of" in Portuguese; the variations "do" and "da" are combinations with the definite article (respectively before masculine- and feminine-gendered nouns), so they both mean "of the" in English. Therefore, DeOliveira is as grotesque as writing Port OfSpain or Lake OfTheWoods in English, Simone DeBeauvoir in French, María DeLosAngeles in Spanish, Johannes VanDerWaals in Dutch, or Claus VonBülow in German.

De is also never capitalized, except when starting a sentence or in an all-caps phrase (as in a warning sign), so "Laudir Soares De Oliveira" is also incorrect, just as "Rio De Janeiro" also is. "Laudir de Oliveira," "Laudir Soares de Oliveira" and "Rio de Janeiro," all with lowercase "de," are correct.

I am going to correct the article and move it to the right name.

--UrsoBR (talk) 08:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 06:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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