Talk:Laureate Education/Archive 1

LIU Network
A listing of institutions is not copyrighted text, I beleive.--Banderas (talk) 18:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Laureate Education
What is the relationship between Laureate Education, Inc. and Laureate International Universities? Should these articles be merged? Folklore1 (talk) 14:25, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * At least i added them as the owner, but i think those two articles should be merged. Laureate is not a "network", it's a company. -- Grindinger (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Advert
This article looks as an advertising. Looking at the editors, the majority claim and/or seem to be Laureate employees. It certainly laks a neutral point of view. The subtitles are: "Centers of Excellence" and "Social Responsibility". Its sources are exclusively the company's site. It does not mention any criticism. In Chile, for instance, many of the network's universities have been acused of ilegal profit. --Ilarrain (talk) 19:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * We did not create the Laureate International Universities page, but upon finding it did want to update the institution list and key statistics and descriptions so they would be accurate and up to date. We clearly identified ourselves as representatives of Laureate International Universities to avoid any potential conflict of interest. We would be happy to remove the reference to our Centers of Excellence if the language is not neutral enough. We have added links to third party sites regarding the Social Responsibility projects our group has led and are happy to provide additional backup if it would be helpful.Craig.Lundsten (talk) 11:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have updated the content in this article to use neutral language and cleaned up the external links throughout according to the external link policy. Links to Wikipedia articles that do not yet exist were removed and I have added and cited content where external and verifiable links exist by a neutral source. I would be happy to work with any editors to provide other sources regarding information about this article.Craig.Lundsten (talk) 15:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, Craig.Lundsten. I have made a few changes to the wording of this article. I don't really like removing whole swathes of text, so I was wondering whether you could contribute an alternative to "The International Youth Foundation is a partner to the Sylvan/Laureate Foundation, and the two have worked together via the YouthActionNet program at Laureate International Universities to launch programs for young social entrepreneurs at several schools within the network." As it currently stands, it's waffle. --Île flottante (talk) 15:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Île flottante, thanks for reaching out. Would this work better to be used in the article, "The International Youth Foundation and the Sylvan/Laureate Foundation have worked together on YouthActionNet, a program at 8 Laureate universities that recognizes young social entrepreneurs and provide them with cash awards for their projects, virtual and classroom training, and mentorship and networking opportunities." --Craig.Lundsten (talk) 12:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.102.29.10 (talk)
 * Yes, I think that wording is much better. Thank you. --Île flottante (talk) 00:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Partnerships are not part of LIU
I think it's a mistake to list Liverpool's online and China campuses as part of LIU, as well as Roehampton's online offer. LIU is associated with these online schools. but they are part of their parent universities rather than LUI. --Duncan (talk) 12:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The Laureate International Universities network includes institutions that Laureate manages directly and the partners that Laureate works with to deliver higher education services. In the case of the University of Liverpool and the University of Roehampton, Laureate is the exclusive partner that delivers 100% of their online degree programs.
 * The University of Liverpool also indicates on their site that "We have been delivering our online programmes with partners Laureate Online Education who are leading international experts in the delivery and teaching of online education. It’s also through this partnership that the University is a member of the Laureate International Universities network of higher education institutions worldwide."
 * Perhaps we could change the listings to reflect that:
 * University of Liverpool (Online programs delivered in partnership with Laureate Online Education, B.V.)
 * University of Roehampton (Online programs delivered in partnership with Laureate Online Education, B.V.)
 * Craig.Lundsten (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Laureate Education
They're the same thing - the company owns the universities. "Laureate International Universities" appears to be no more than a marketing name. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that this is correct. Technically, Laureate owns and operates the universities listed in the Laureate International Universities network and so these entries could be merged. Please see this reference from an interview with Laureate’s CEO confirming this. Craig.Lundsten (talk) 19:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Proposed updates
In response to the helpful comments Justlettersandnumbers, I'd like to propose some changes to this page, offering neutral sources in the media as references.

Regarding the sentence, "Laureate International Universities are the universities and colleges owned by Laureate Education, of Baltimore, Maryland, in the United States." It's technically correct here to say “Laureate International Universities are the universities and colleges and universities owned and operated by Laureate Education.” For instance, Laureate has partnerships with the University of Liverpool and the University of Roehampton to operate their online programs, but Laureate does not have an ownership stake in either university.

Regarding the location of Laureate's operations and total enrollment, this recent interview with Laureate's CEO, Doug Becker provides updates on that: “By 2014, the company owned and operated more than 80 institutions, both campus-based and online, in 30 countries, with total student enrollment of more than 800,000 students.”

Regarding visits of former President Bill Clinton, he also visited Universidade Europeia in May 2014 and commemorated the official launch of Torrens University in Australia in July 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craig.Lundsten (talk • contribs) 19:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)