Talk:Lauren Bacall/Archive 1

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Not sure where to put this or how to use Wiki's "Edit" function, but the article says Bacall's father was a "relative" of Israeli President Shimon Peres' father. I just heard Michael Medved confidently say that those two fathers were brothers: So Bacall was Shimon Peres' first cousin.

Bogart, Bacall and "baby"
Isn't this just a way to say, "honey", "sweetheart", "hey baby", like "hey mama", doesn't have anything to with age, you just say, "hey daddy", or "the old lady", but you don't mean age. ???? WikiDon 02:54, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Not in this case. This was his public pet name for her, not just talking to her, but talking about her.  You could look it up.  Wahkeenah 03:00, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * A) Where would I look it up at?
 * B) Talking about her, "that's my baby", "she's my baby", "I love that baby", still can have nothing to with age. How did you get the idea I was only talking about talking "to her?" I didn't say that. WikiDon 03:08, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * His public pet name for her was "Baby", both talking to her and about her. Check out this contemporary reference, for example:  I can tell you more about the dialogue of that cartoon, if you're interested. :) Wahkeenah 03:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * This still does not say "why" he called her that, it says nothing of "AGE".
 * On several occasions I distinctly recall Bogart calling his female co-stars “baby” and “sweetheart” in his movies, and it didn’t have anything to do with age, but was a term of endearment or affection. WikiDon 03:19, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * This particular reference doesn't say anything about age, it just points out (as does the cartoon itself) that it was "Baby" with a capital B, not just "baby". Check out Google by putting in "Bacall" and "Baby" and you'll find a number of references, at least some of which assert that it had to do with the age difference.  Bogie was a plain-speaking kind of guy, so he could be hot for the much-younger Lauren and make fun of that fact at the same time. Wahkeenah 03:34, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

In Slick Hare, there is this climactic dialogue:
 * Elmer (waiter): I'm sowwy Mr. Bogawt, I couldn't get a wabbit! I twied and I twied.
 * Bogart (reaching into his coat, seemingly for a gun): Well, in that case there's only one thing to do...
 * Elmer: No! Pwease! Don't shoot!
 * Bogart (pulling out a hankie and mopping his forehead): Baby will just have to have a ham sandwich instead!
 * Bugsy (emerging from hiding): Baby?! (Leaps onto the table on a silver tray) Remember, garcon, the customer is always right! If it's rabbit Baby wants, rabbit Baby gets! (Proceeds to do his best "Hollywood wolf" shtick, howling and panting and making goo-goo eyes at the fetching Bacall). Wahkeenah 03:40, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the cartoon text. I looked through 200 websites, couldn't find anything that made it an age issue, or why. WikiDon 04:39, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

My main point, in both the Bacall and the Bogart articles, was to remind the readers that "Baby" is what Bogie called her, with a capital "B", not just the generic "baby" that lovers call each other. Her friends call her Betty, which of course is her real name. I reckon I'll have to go to my Barnes & Ignoble to get an in-depth bio of one or both of them that would prove the specifics of why he called her "Baby", although it seems obvious, but it's not a point worth my while to obsess over. :) Wahkeenah 05:03, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree with you that he called her Baby, there is no doubt about it. She has been know as Baby for years. I left in the fact that he called her that, just re-wrote the entry to break the infurance that it was because of age, until I can find a reference. I would say Bacall's book (s) would be the best place to look. Keep up the good work. WikiDon 05:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't have Bacall's autobiography, but I think I know someone that does, so if I find out more I'll get back to you. Certainly Bogie is not the first to use "Baby" with a capital B. An example is the 1930s comedy "Bringing Up Baby", Baby being the leading lady's pet leopard. As a generic (lower case) term, the early 1900s song that WB's famous frog sings is a good example, as it starts, "Hello, mah baby, hello mah honey, hello mah ragtime gal..." The use of "babe", is in "a babe", in particular, in reference to any "hot" young woman is also very old usage. Good grief, there's almost enough here for a separate article, if I feel like writing it... the concept of "encyclopedic" being used rather generously in this case. :) Wahkeenah 11:08, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Just removed this uncited assertion from the article. The citation given says only that Bogart called her Baby, it says nothing about why. Yes, he was significantly older than her, but to link that to the nickname is to make a deduction. We are not allowed to do that. Besides, many people refer to their love as Baby pretty consistently in public. I call my own girlfriend that more often than her real name in public.--Khajidha (talk) 13:56, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

A member of the Golden Age of Hollywood generation?
User:23skidoo added the following:


 * "....one of the few actors of the "Golden Age of Hollywood" generation still active in the industry."

EXCEPTION: Because the "Golden Age of Hollywood" is considered to be: "...the period beginning with the advent of sound until after the end of WWII." Her first film was 1944, marking the end of the Golden Age and the beginning of the post-war rise of the film noir period. Also, she was a generation younger than Bogart, K. Hepburn, Tracy, Wayne, Grant, Chaplin, Pickford, Gable, Welles, Astair, Loy, W. Powell, etc.

So, because she acted in ONE film in the "Golden Age" she was a "Golden Age" actor? That is a s.t.r.e.t.c.h.... That does NOT make her of the "Golden Age of Hollywood" generation.

I say that she is in with: Doris Day (1924), Eva Marie Saint (1924), Shelley Winters (1920), Tony Randall (1920), Walter Matthau (1920), Ricardo Montalban (1920), Donna Reed (1921), Carol Channing (1921), Cyd Charisse (1921), Gordon MacRae (1921), Simone Signoret (1921), Alexis Smith (1921), Yves Montand (1921), Kathryn Grayson (1922), Richard Kiley (1922), Judy Garland (1922), Barbara Bel Geddes (1922), Veronica Lake (1922), Anne Baxter (1923), Marlon Brando (1924), Paul Newman (1925), Dorothy Malone (1925), Jack Lemmon (1925), Hal Holbrook (1925), Rod Steiger (1925), Jeanne Crain (1925), Tony Curtis (1925), Patricia Neal (1926), Audrey Meadows (1926), Marilyn Monroe (1926), George C. Scott (1927), Richard Crenna (1927), etc.

These are HER generation, her contemporaries.

Anyone else have an opinion? WikiDon 09:23, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I rephrased it. Hope it's more satisfying now.--Downtownstar 23:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Two responses to the first post. First, the "classic period" of film noir actually started in the early 40's. Second, the Golden Age of Hollywood is considered to be the heyday of the Studio System, which is considered to be from the advent of sound to the late 40's/early 50's. --PhantomS 17:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Bacall and HUAC
I am amazed that there is nothing in this article about Bacall being called before HUAC and her connection to the "Hollywood 10." The McCarthy hearings, and her association with them, are major historical events. Much more important than her quotes about Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman. Danflave 20:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
This is an extensive article on a legendary person. There's a desperate need for more pictures of her, don't you think? Even the main shot has her with another person. If anyone can find one or two or three shots of Lauren that could be used here, it would be greatly appreciated. That's all Folks.Downtownstar 16:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Pop songs that sample Bacall?
There was a big UK hit from the late 80s/early 90s which used the Bacall sample ("You know how to whistle, don't you?.."). Anyone remember which band it was?Bmathew 22:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The song that sampled Bacall was "Check This Out" by L.A. Mix.

Stephen Bogart
Why does the link for Stephen Bogart redirect to Humphrey Bogart's page? Phaethon 0130 02:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Is he notable enough for his own article? IMDb Qzm (talk) 02:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. Even his IMDB listed roles are mostly based on who he is, which was the son of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. One film role - Pandora (2002) as an unnamed Psychiatrist and co-produced an anthology film in 2002. Everything else is related to his status as the son, either as a consultant, an interviewee in documentaries or as himself, talking about his parents. Any other person with those credentials wouldn't be considered notable. He doesn't meet the criteria in WP:ENT independently and falls under Notability (people): Being related to a notable person in itself confers no degree of notability upon that person. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The article states that her son Stephen was named after Humphrey's character in 'To Have and Have Not' but his character's name was Harry Morgan.--Loki28 (talk) 15:22, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Cashing in on Bacall
The following trivia were grandly presented as "cultural references". Beats me how Lloyd Webber's schlock can be regarded as "culture"; but that aside, the following don't seem to add to our knowledge of Bacall. So I cut them all. -- Hoary 02:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

The 1981 romantic ballad, "Key Largo" (written and sung by Bertie Higgins) referenced the Bogart/Bacall movie of the same name, and their relationship.

In the song "Rainbow High" from Andrew Lloyd Webber's musical Evita, the main character Eva Peron orders her stylist to "Lauren Bacall me!" Bacall is mentioned among some other Hollywood icons in the lyrics for Madonna's 1990 hit single "Vogue". Out of the dozen icons Madonna mentions, Bacall is the only one still alive today. Bacall is mentioned in The Clash song "Car Jamming" from Combat Rock: "I thought I saw Lauren Bacall/I swear/Hey fellas/Lauren Bacall/In a car jam". She was mentioned along with Humphrey Bogart in the Nas song "Blunt Ashes", featured on the 2006 album, Hip Hop Is Dead.

In 2005's Thank You for Smoking Bacall's famous first scene is used by the protagonist Nick Naylor as his pitch for bringing cigarettes back into film, citing the obvious sexual tension between Bacall and Bogart incited people to smoke: "The greatest on-screen romance in film history; how did it start? With a cigarette."

Bacall is mentioned in the Butthole Surfers song "P.S.Y." off the album "Pioughed": "I know you don't believe it but I really should be leavin', She fell in love with Lauren Bacall"

Criticism of Tom Cruise
Didn't she criticize Tom after she worked with Nicole Kidman in Dogville where she said Kidman was “adorable, professional, but unhappy.” and had this to say about Cruise: “Tom had taken off for Penélope Cruz or some goddamn thing—one of his more ridiculous moves. Tom Cruise is a maniac. I can’t understand the way he conducts his life.”, thereby blaming him for the breakup of him and Kidman? It appears in Elle magazine. -- Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 02:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Bacall and Peres
Re: Bacall and Peres as possible first cousins: User Williameis adds a reference to Hitchens in Slate (Hitchens, Christopher (2009-05-11). "President of Which Israel?". Slate.com. http://www.slate.com/id/2218002/. Retrieved on 2009-05-11.), explaining, "Christopher Hitchens asked Shimon Peres if Lauren Bacall is really his cousin." No! If you read the article, Hitchens did NOT ask Peres, and furthermore, Hitchens cites WIKIPEDIA as the source of his supposition that they might be cousins! This is a citation loop. I cut the reference entirely until someone can genuinely source this. RRvR (talk) 14:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Removing that ref was the right call as it was quite bogus, although a cursory search of reliable sources reveals this to be quite true and citeable. Frank  |  talk  16:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The assertion that peres and bacall are first cousins seems impossible. If they are it must be on Bacalls fathers side, this would make Bacalls father and Peres father brothers-yet bacalls father was born and raised in New York and Peres father lived his life in Poland prior to immigrating to palestine, how is this possible? There is no evidence of peres mother ever living or giving birth in the US — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.161.185.118 (talk) 08:59, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Twitter
Is the twitter page that Lauren Bacall has really hers or is someone masquerading as her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.124.134.50 (talk) 15:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The only Lauren Bacall account that I find is registered as @laurenbacall but it says Lois Jones in the header. It's not a verified account. That's the only way to know for sure, is if it is verified. I don't think it is her. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

It's not her: http://www.accesshollywood.com/twilight/lauren-bacall-not-tweeting-about-twilight_article_22199 12.162.122.6 (talk) 23:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Her movie career "waned"?
"Bacall's movie career waned in the 1960s, and she was only seen in a handful of films."

This statement seems to imply that Bacall was no longer much in demand during that period. That might be true -- I don't claim to know -- but the statement ought to be supported, or else removed. Bacall has had an extraordinarily successful career, and -- as mentioned earlier in the article -- was known for turning down roles that did not interest her.

Incidentally, I think this is a very good article.

Verify. Supposedly her PR rep said she's still alive... at least as of August 12, 2014.

Lauren Bacall Death Hoax Dismissed Since Actress Is ‘Alive And Well’

On Tuesday (August 12) the actress' reps officially confirmed that Lauren Bacall is not dead. “She joins the long list of celebrities who have been victimized by this hoax. She's still alive and well, stop believing what you see on the Internet,” they said.

en.mediamass.net/people/lauren-bacall/ deathhoax.html

Infogurl9 (talk) 00:06, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


 * [en.mediamass.net/people/lauren-bacall/ deathhoax.html] It is confirmed she is dead. LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28767401 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.122.230 (talk) 18:38, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Date and circumstances of name change
Compare this version:
 * Early life: Her parents divorced when she was five, and she took the Romanian form of her mother's last name, Bacall.

with this version:
 * Modeling (c. 1942): Hawks signed her to a seven-year personal contract, brought her to Hollywood, gave her $100 salary a week, and began to manage her career. Hawks changed her first name to Lauren, and Perske adopted "Bacall", a variant of her mother's maiden name, as her new surname.

These cannot both be correct. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:29, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The first comment can't be literally true as stated, nobody changes their own name at 5. Conceivably her mother changed her name, or she changed it later but before Hawks, but I'd expect this to be stated. So I'll edit the text a bit. Pol098 (talk) 13:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Removed link
Why has the external link http://www.cosmopolis.ch/english/film/e0016900/lauren_bacall_e01690000000.htm been removed? It is a valid link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.65.113 (talk) 15:20, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * You should ask the person who removed it (not me) for their reasons. Personally I agree that a short unsigned Web page saying nothing singled out as relevant is not of any use in the external links section; there are plenty of whole books referenced in the article, and appending anything of over a couple of pages mentioning Bacall would fill the encyclopaedia. Pol098 (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Because it's not an appropriate link for WP:EXTERNAL. It is just an overview of her life which is exactly what this entire article is. External links should be "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant" LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Death
WHY are people putting "stroke" as the cause-when the cause WAS NOT released by the official announcement? Here's the official announcement, straight from the verified Humphrey Bogart Estate facebook site :

With deep sorrow for the magnitude of our loss, yet with great gratitude for her amazing life, we confirm the passing of Lauren Bacall.

Now...where does it say "stoke"?

Oh. It doesn't! Or am I missing something? Double checks the source...nope. That's the exact words verbatim. Cause of death was not given.

PLEASE stop saying it does until it is confirmed information by her representatives. The reason why some media outlets are reporting stroke is because "someone" from The Dakota (Bacall's residence) was taken to the hospital via ambulance suffering stroke like symptoms, when in fact, Bacall died at home. Therefore, the stroke victim was not Bacall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtracy2010 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * According to her grandson Jamie Bogart, she suffered a massive stroke and that's what killed her. From CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/12/showbiz/lauren-bacall-dead LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:46, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone know whether Lauren Bacall was either buried or cremated? Usually this information is included.

Sam Robards
I've removed the citation request next to her son Sam Robards. I'm not sure what the request was for - that he was her son or that he was an actor - but neither seems to be open to doubt. ~ Brother William (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Unknown burial. No great grandchildren.
DO NOT edit that again the information is inaccurate.

Her children never revealed where she was buried. Likely, she was buried in New York, where her funeral services were held. She was likely buried in the same plot as her mother, Natalie Bacal.

She is survived by the following people:
 * Stephen H. Bogart (1949, eldest son)
 * Carla Bogart (1954, at the time was her eldest son's fiance, and is now his wife)
 * Jamie Bogart (1970, eldest grandson)
 * Richard Bogart (1986, second grandson)
 * Brooke Bogart (1989, only granddaughter)
 * Leslie H. Bogart (1952, only daughter)
 * Erich Schiffman (son-in-law since 1990)
 * Sam Robards (1961, youngest son)
 * Sidsel Robards (daughter-in-law since 1997)
 * Jasper Robards (grandson, born 1990)
 * Calvin Robards (grandson, born 1999)
 * Sebastian Robards (grandson, born 2002)

No great grandchildren. No grandchildren-in-law. Please stop editing it with that incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:193:C100:9E:80CE:37B0:9EC9:E6F8 (talk) 07:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And yet numerous sources mention her great-grandchildren. More then enough sources to include the information. Removing sourced material from a Wikipedia article is regarded as vandalism of an article. Mythic Writerlord (talk) 07:31, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually, if you actually READ those “sources” none of them include that information-her survivors aren’t mentioned at all in any of those so called “Sources”.

So The NY Times article that claims otherwise isn’t a reliable source, but joeshmoe’s blog is?

REALLY?

That’s just DUMB.

No Great Grandchildren. Unknown burial place. Get over it. What I have stated is fact. What is your claim is fiction.

And correcting inaccurate sources is not vandalism of an article-it’s correcting inaccurate information.

Provide me with names, ages and parents names of these so-called great grandchildren, and it will be believable. Newsflash: None of her grandchildren are married. Brooke is allegedly engaged, but that’s it. Might want to look up the definition of accurate source…’cause the sources aren’t accurate. At least in an educational setting they wouldn’t consider to be creditable sources.


 * Comment A couple of problems with your reasoning:
 * There are several sources who mention great-grandchildren
 * There are no sources who deny their existence; they simply aren't mentioned in the NY Times article you linked
 * Not all children are born to married parents; Jamie Bogart is 45 years old and might very well be a father even if he's unmarried


 * Your insistance on removing the mention of great-grandchildren is based solely on the fact you found an article that does not mention them. I think that's very little reason for removal when other sources claim otherwise. Mythic Writerlord (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

My recent edits, well sourced from Bacall's New York Times obituary, should help clear all this up. (3 children, 4 grandchildren, no great-grandchildren as of 1996. We can add the fact of any great-grandchildren, if anyone can locate valid sources for same, and cite them in-line.) --- Professor JR (talk) 10:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC) cc.

To User: 2601:193:C100:9E:80CE:37B0:9EC9:E6F8: - Your contributions and comments seem to be in good faith --- but anonymous, unsigned edits or comments are generally not very well-received, nor appreciated in Wikipedia. You would do better, and be taken much more seriously as an editor, if you would register with a User Name (you're still essentially anonymous) and sign any edits or TalkPage comments. --- Professor JR (talk) 10:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Swedish Film Institute tribute event in section 5.3
Of the various tribute events that happened after Lauren Bacall's death, why is this one significant? Why is there a photo [presumably] of people involved with this event in Lauren Bacall's article? I would have been pretty tempted to just remove this reference as tacky and irrelevant if I hadn't seen in the edit history that this was removed previously [6-Dec-2015] and quickly re-added [7-Dec-2015]. Is there disagreement about the relevance or suitability of this content as part of this article? I haven't contributed to an article's Talk section before now, so I apologize for any deviances from accepted standards.Brjason (talk) 08:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)Brjason
 * It does not appear notable. Certainly the image has no reason to be in the article.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  14:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't quite see how an image of a tribute to Bacall, mentioned in the article's text, by a film institute of world renown, with the image including the hostess of the event there, can be considered "irrelevant promotional content" as was the comment last time it was removed, or "not notable, tacky [thanks a lot!] and irrelevant" as is the opinion now. Anyone have a better photo of a tribute to her, or should we have no tribute image at all? It's quite hard to find donated-as-free images to illustrate Wikipedia articles, which is a fact most of us know and appreciate. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Speaking to the image only, it does nothing to improve the article and is unencyclopedic for this purpose. Which the organization is significant, the image of this tribute is of three people whom do not appear to have any notable connection to Bacall. None are mentioned in her article, and she is not mentioned in the article of the person who has one. Additionally, there is a copy-vio pixillated image of Bacall. Since you (Serge) are the uploader of the image I can understand your passion.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  21:21, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but my only - quite neutral - passion is that WP articles should be relevantly illustrated. Who the people are is indeed irrelevant to this biography, but it is my opinion that the instute is not irrelevant. If it were a restaurant or a family reunion honoring Bacall, I certainly would understand your objection. My question was: anyone have a better photo of a [common industry] tribute to her, or should we have no [common industry] tribute image at all? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Reddit as Source
I added not long ago info about Bacall serving as inspiration for Elizabeth from BioShock Infinite, which was removed because the Reddit source was apparently "Not a usable source", which I don't think is correct.

Here is the source I used: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1o09p2/we_are_ken_levine_iglevine_and_andres_gonzalez/

And this is the comment I based this on: "She was awesome to design, one of the hilights of my year. She was actually conceived by Jorge Lacera, Gavin Goulden and myself. Sarah Rosa did a ton of research on period looks and we sort of mixed and matched from Lauren Bacall, Rita Hayworth, and like five other people. We wanted her outfit to feel very Elizabeth, but very Rapture at the same time. This isn't the same girl you met in her tower (the same person, but changed by experience)" - IGKen (Ken Levine)

I'm not sure how familiar anyone reading this might be with using Reddit as source so hear me out. Sure a normal comment/post on Reddit is no doubt not valid as a source but this was taken from an IAmA/AMA, which is an Ask me Anything feature for Reddit users, where anyone can ask the person holding the IAmA/AMA anything (check Reddit's page for more information on the subject under "IAmA and AMA" (<--Linked)). Still not a valid source I know, but the feature has been frequently used by various notable individuals/celebrates, which are usually verified. These notable individuals often use Reddit to answer questions fans have about the subject the person is known for, ex: A book, a film, a game, etc. This is the case with the IAMA I used as a source, as it was hosted by Andres Gonzalez and Ken Levine (IGKen). Ken Levine was the director and writer of BioShock and BioShock Infinite and is considered "the father of BioShock", and is so verified (as can be seen by the pink box containing his name on the post).

Reddit IAmAs/AMAs are frequently used as source on Wikipedia, to put that in context, I searched for "Reddit. Retrieved" to check how many pages actually uses Reddit as source, and here's the result: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&profile=default&search=Reddit.+Retrieved&searchToken=estlriqhf6rxw50ezvcbz79b7

I read the Identifying reliable sources that was linked in the edit that undid mine, but i couldn't quite pinpoint were it says that this sort of source is invalid?

--ElitistCoffee (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:SELFPUB lays out how sources like Reddit are to be used. It looks like this could be a correct use, however it is better to use a WP:SECONDARY source then a primary source. How about you put it back using http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/10/08/ken-levine-ama-talks-bioshock-infinite-burial-at-sea-dlc-release-date-the-future-ps4xbox-one-elizabeth-porn-weapon-wheel-returning-much-more/ . I know, it just quotes the source you used, but it is an article and editors are less likely to remove it. You should probably use this source in the article for Elizabeth as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Disruptive tangent—eyes glaze over
The substantial second paragraph now in the "Late career" section is mostly devoted to irrelevant corporate history, broadcast and video release information concerning an apparently not-very-notable animated film made for Canadian TV. These details may delight a completist animation geek, but IMO they are a tedious yawn-inducing stumbling block for all other readers where they are. Their contributor ought to create an article about The Real Story of the Three Little Kittens and park the information there, not shoehorn it in here. Will someone who agrees kindly remove this chunk of boring irrelevance from this article? 66.249.174.87 (talk) 14:04, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

✅ - Good call,--Light show (talk)

Singer?
8000 Saiyan has added claims that LB was a singer. The article provides no evidence for this. How was she (other than occasionally/trivially) a singer? -- Hoary (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * As 8000 Saiyan hasn't deigned to respond to this (despite having edited elsewhere), I've reverted this addition. -- Hoary (talk) 05:53, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I think the infobox was changed to match the lede sentence, which was edited in August 2016 to read " ... actress and singer known for her distinctive voice ..." There was no edit summary, and the contribution was unsourced. There was no content in the article supporting that singing was a defining characteristic, no categories indicating she was a singer, and I've removed those two words. — WFinch (talk) 12:54, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Awards section
The awards section on Bacall's biography in its current state is enormous and bloats the navigation box considerably; given the number of items, perhaps this should have its own page? (i.e. List of awards and nominations received by Lauren Bacall) --Drown Soda (talk) 02:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Bacall error in name explication
Bacall doesn't mean anything in Romanian like "Weinstein". It is slavic - Pokal, Bokal, бокал (Pronounciation: Bakal) for "winegalss". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.18.130 (talk) 23:01, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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