Talk:Layla/Archive 1

London Trombone Sound
I don't know if anyone wants to mention this, but an arrangement of this song was recorded on the London Trombone Sound. The song (and the entire album) is performed with only trombones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.196.1 (talk) 04:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"played by Duane?"
To my mind, the "opening guitar figure" consists of both the picked (Clapton?) and slide (Allman?) parts; I don't think it's correct to claim it's played by one or the other. Comments? Jgm 13:09, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I think this article is missing the date that the song was released.
 * It is a duet between Allman's slide guitar and Clapton's bent notes. After the third verse and chorus, they do an overdubbed solo. &mdash;Bill Conrad 16:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Seagulls
I seem to remember hearing on a radio interview (maybe NPR?) that the "seagull" sounds at the very end were Duane whistling on a plastic bird whistle. Any confirmation to this story? Sayeth 19:44, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought he was making the bird sounds on his slide guitar. &mdash;Bill Conrad 16:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Cream "violently" broke up?
Is it true there was violence in the breakup, or was it just animosity? I know that there are some groups that broke up violently, but I didn't think Cream was one of them. -- Un focused 03:26, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't know if there was any real violence, although Bruce and Baker really hated each other for a while; I once heard that Eric was reduced to tears by an argument B&B were having. Deltabeignet 01:45, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * While footnoting, I changed "violently" to "angrily". Deltabeignet 02:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Probably doesn't matter now, but I found this page from Eric's article, which, among other things, indicates that there was actual violence. Deltabeignet 02:37, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Pinko Commies?
I have cut the following: "The song was covered on The Pinko Commies' first album, Phunkadaliciously Incredibibble". I can't find any reference to this band or album, and suspect it is a hoax. -- Jmabel | Talk July 6, 2005 22:38 (UTC)
 * That reference was added a while ago by an anon who had created articles for both the band and the album. I believe they were deleted under VfD (possibly SD), but no one bothered to delete the reference. Hope that helps. Harro5 July 6, 2005 23:23 (UTC)

John Fahey
...But if we are going to mention covers of the song, I would think John Fahey's would be the most notable. -- Jmabel | Talk July 6, 2005 22:38 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll go along with that; I've added it. (I've never heard his version, but the Amazon sample sounded intriguing.) Deltabeignet 6 July 2005 23:22 (UTC)

Sky High link
An anonymous user whose IP is one connected with AOL Online has tried numerous attempts to add references to a character named Layla from a Disney movie Sky High. The character is mentioned once, in the following passage:
 * "Since he hasn't any super powers, he joins the ranking of Sidekick Class, along with new-found friend Layla (Danielle Panabaker), who has power over nature and a crush on Will."

Layla seems to be a medium-to-minor character in this movie to be released later this week. There is no need to provide a link to Sky High in the Layla article, and I am being particularly picky in reverting this link as Layla is a first-rate Featured Article. There is my explanation for deleting this link, and I hope that any AOL anons looking to re-enter the reference will discuss that choice here. Thanks. Harro5 07:41, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Obscure reference of layla
the word layla means night and the arabian nights is called alif layla meaning one thousand nights. the charachter layla in the poem had dark complexion

Background Section
Is it just me or does the quote sound ridiculous?:

"with an immediately recognizable guitar riff, always remaining a vivid memory for anyone who has heard it"

I mean, is this bad writing from Rolling Stone or a neutral article?


 * It's not just you. The quote strikes me as extremely unnecessary.

Name Origin
Can someone provide a source for "Their original title, Eric and The Dynamos, was apparently mispronounced as Derek and the Dominos, a name which stuck." I'm skeptical. Superm401 | Talk 18:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

http://www.google.com/search?&q=eric%20dynamos%20derek%20dominos <-- look at all the sources on the internet. this appears to be a well-known fact. --Canar 19:53, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

George's role on "Badge"
Man, I can't believe this article made it to featured status without anyone noticing the minor error about George Harrison's participation on Cream's "Badge"--George doesn't sing on it; he plays rhythm guitar (note his signature arpeggio sequence in the bridge, a misinterpretation of the name of which became the title for the song) credited as "L'Angelo Misterioso" for contractual reasons. I've fixed this. Drasil 22:14, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, actually, it was Clapton playing the arpeggio, but you're right about the vocals. Deltabeignet 01:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Track played at live shows
"For this reason, Clapton usually plays the acoustic version at live shows."

Is the contributor sure? On the One More Car, One More Rider tour, it was the original. At the Crossroads Guitar Festival, it was the original. Without a source, I'll have to remove the comment. Deltabeignet 23:18, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

More Photos
It's a bit lacking in colour. A contemporary (of that time) colour photo of Patti, and/or of Derek & The Dominos, would be nice. --kingboyk 20:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoa whoas
If I recall correctly, I think the whoa-whoa-whoa's that I hear in the solo right before the piano coda are coming from an audience. Comments? &mdash;Gm1121983 00:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I think it's Eric Clapton expressing his pain. &mdash;Mariusz Zielinski 13:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Because he's grouchy. &mdash;Brian Barbera 21:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it's Bobby Whitlock who sings the whoas, and when the chorus repeats a second time, he echoes "Layla" after Clapton. &mdash;Brian Michael Barbera 22:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is Whitlock who sings the "Layla" part, and Clapton sings the part after that. &mdash;68.45.188.45 15:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wonderful Tonight
I'm just curious; How could Clapton have written Wonderful Tonight for Pattie during their marraige when Slowhand came out in '77? They weren't married until '79. AltrEgo2001 18:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's clearly wrong. But does that whole section about Eric and Pattie's later marriage and divorce really belong here ? It's not relevant to this song. -- Beardo 22:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Unrequited love
As Boyd married Clapton, it wasn't really unrequited love was it? 89.240.199.90 23:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Then it was. -- Beardo 03:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Wait?
So the song is sang and played in different keys? That's probably why it sounds so weird, but hell it's damn well written. Is that the same case in "Blue Eyes Blue"?
 * If you mean sung and played in D minor at one point and sung and played in C sharp minor at another, then yes. If you mean sung in D minor and played in C sharp minor at the same time, then no, that would be unbearably dissonant. (Speeding up the tape post-recording also makes it sound more unique, as it gives the song a key you've never heard before. The same was done for "Baba O'Riley" and the original Kind of Blue.) Deltabeignet 17:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

GoodFellas, etc.
User:192.136.24.2 reworked part of the 'Beyond the original album' section, alleging that "Layla"'s use in GoodFellas led to newfound popularity and the Unplugged concert; User:Alex.rosenheim incorporated the change. That kind of thing definitely needs a reliable source; I've never heard any mention of GoodFellas as a career catalyst in any of the dozens of sources I've read. Deltabeignet 00:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Microtonality
Is that really fair? I think it's best to reserve the word "microtonal" for music that actually makes use of microtonal intervals within itself. It would be better to say that the piano piece is written in C but played (after tape tricks) to a pitch standard of A452 rather than A440. The only obvious microtonal interval is the one between "C in the first movement" and "C in the second movement" -- which is worth mentioning, but hardly makes for "microtonal music" given the separate nature of the two pieces as described in the very same section.

Andrew Rodland (talk) 21:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought the same thing while reading the article. I'm going to be bold and just delete it because it really is not microtonal in the strict sense. Conical Johnson (talk) 17:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Kinds of guitars
I think it would be interesting to say in the article what kinds of guitars Allman & Clapton were playing. Does anybody know? To guess from the flavor of the tones, Allman had a Les Paul & Clapton had a Telecaster or Stratocaster, but that is completely just a guess. If someone could find a published source about that, that would be terrific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.227.242.237 (talk) 00:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It used to be in there, but I must have lost it in revision. Your ear is good: Clapton played a Stratocaster nicknamed Brownie (guitar), while Duane played a Les Paul. Deltabeignet (talk) 21:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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another story
the mamas and papas band have a similar story to this one.Sunshine o my luv (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Trans-Siberian Orchestra
The Trans-Siberian Orchestra include this song in their live setlist if you want to note that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.111.189.191 (talk) 22:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Full Circle!
Eric Clapton played Layla with the Allman Brothers during the Allman's Beacon Run in March 2009 (specifically on 3/19 and 3/20/2009) 67.240.168.198 (talk) 02:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Owslystnly (talk • contribs) 00:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Recording glitches?
Is there a story behind the audio aroun 1:30 through 1:50 where there is a slight fade down in the vocal volume followed by some stuttering in the volume (on the first "Layla" of the chorus, the volume skips noticably higher during the word). I've seen this in various rips of the song, so I am pretty sure this is part of the actual master recording; Is there a story behind it? TheHYPO (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

The original release of the album was hampered by a very muddy,compressed-sounding mix. The entire thing was re-mixed and sounded much,much better;there should be some mention of this in the entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.173.37.126 (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Covers
I would like to add a mention to Charlie Daniel's cover of the song. I'm attempting to find the original source of the cover, as it is most widely available on several compilation albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.121.217.63 (talk) 03:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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