Talk:Lea T

Notability
Reasons to NOT DELETE this article due to lack of importance:

1. She is the face of Givenchy

2. She is already noted on the Givenchy wiki page

3. She has received a huge amount of press articles in the last half year, culminating with the highest publicity in January 2011.

4. She is the child of a noted football player

5. She received extreme publicity for a Vogue cover shot in which she kisses Kate Moss

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/30/lea-t-transsexual-model-t_3_n_815918.html#s232596

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gtZr88e6qQxf22P4z7T_-LbjCjVw?docId=CNG.ad0fbca0fd67e69b8000b22f53b7ca5d.231

http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2011/01/lea_t_wears_givenchy_haute_cou.html

(hundreds more, just search for Lea T or Lea T transsexual. She's famous)

Is this necessary?
"Lea was assigned "male" at birth". When born, are we now "assigned" gender? This phrase seems to fringe on the "PC". What's wrong with "Lea was born a male". Was Lea born a hermaphrodite? If so, I'd feel that this phrase would be appropriate; as long it were preceded by that fact. BigJoeRockHead (talk) 16:34, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it is necessary. At the time when she was born, she had no gender; the assumption that she was male was something that was assigned to her by others. "This phrase seems to fringe on the 'PC'" - is there a problem with this? Respect for someone else's identity is good. (kept as current for further discussion) 86.26.161.186 (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. No, I have no problem. I believe the statement required more information; such as the information you provided. If this is the case, I believe you should change this line "Lea was born male; but now identifies as female."; and add your information for clarity; as it supports the previously changed statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJoeRockHead (talk • contribs) 16:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

This is outrageous, she was identified as a male when she was born; for, though she exhibited male genitalia, she was clearly never male! So saying she was born male is doubting her condition as a woman all of her life, including now; regardless if she has genitalia normally associated as being a male's. 176.248.76.181 (talk) 15:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello? He was talking about biological sex. Since this is suppose to be an encyclopedia. The statement was ambiguous as to the birth sex of Lea. If she was born with ambiguous genitalia and assigned male status (which is what the wording makes it seem like) then that should be stated. I know people like to say "gender" means something different than "sex" now. It's like a big thing... That's fine, but it is clear what the original poster meant by the question, okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.181.206 (talk) 05:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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