Talk:Learie Constantine

Category:Barbados cricketers?
Why is Constantine in Category:Barbados cricketers? Am I missing something? Guettarda 20:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

New material
I have reformatted the new material, but some rearrangement is needed to put the article in a more logical order.--Brownlee 16:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

WP Cricket assessment
Though the article rates a B for the coverage of his whole life, the part dealing with his cricketing career is rather brief. Also references are rather lacking. Hence I've rated it as Start rather than B. JH (talk page) 18:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

CLR James
The passage about James is puzzling. James is at least as famous as Constantine and well known as being a Trinidadian originally, rather than a local. So this passage really makes no sense.

Biblio
He wrote Cricketers' Cricket (published 1949). Recently picked up a 2nd hand copy which is why I looked him up on Wiki. Needs adding, cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.53.102 (talk) 00:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Captaincy of the Dominions side
"He played just once more in first-class cricket, when in 1945, as the only black player in either side, he captained a team representing the "Dominions" against England at Lord's." It indicates the respect in which he must have been held, given the prevailing attitude towards black people at that time, that he should have been made captain of a side that was otherwise white. Do any of the sources that you're drawing on mention this? JH (talk page) 08:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Comments on the latest round of edits
"...he saw his first season at Nelson as the best of his life owing to the freedom and excitement of the cricket he played." I think that's worth retaining. JH (talk page) 08:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Learie Constantine
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Learie Constantine's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ODNB": From Jack Hobbs:  From Douglas Jardine:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

MBE
When a person becomes a knight (presumably in this case a KBE rather than a baronet), and subsequently a baron, wouldn't that supersede their MBE, so that it should no longer be included in their official title as given at the start of the article and in the infobox? (Though obviously one would still mention the award at the appropriate point in the article.) JH (talk page) 19:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure. The Wisden obit gives Lord Constantine MBE, but ODNB gives Baron Constantine and no MBE. Not being too familiar with the British Honours system, but suspecting the ODNB people know the form, I'm inclined to go with them and so I've removed MBE. There is probably an obscure rule or other. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Who was who also seems to leave MBE out of his title. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Constantine was made a "Knight bachelor", not a KBE. The MBE he received in 1945 was not superseded by the knighthood, nor by the subsequent life peerage. He kept it to his dying day. It would be OK to refer to him as "Lord Constantine MBE", but as the MBE is a fairly low-level honour it is more usually omitted from the formal title. For what it's worth, there are lots of different types of knighthood in the British honours system. Baronets are not knights, although they carry the title "Sir"; theirs is an hereditary honour, very rarely awarded these days. The main division among knights is between those appointed to orders of chivalry, and those not. The latter are the "Knights bachelor", and they form the majority of knighthoods. The main orders of chivalry are the Order of the British Empire, the Order of St Michael and St George, the Order of the Bath, the Royal Victorian Order and some highly exclusive ones such as the Order of the Garter. Knights appointed to these become, respectively, KBE, KCMG, KCB, KCVO and KG. There are (naturally) a few variations, but that's it in a nutshell. Here endeth today's lesson. Brianboulton (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Space/Period
I noticed that the edit made reverted to the incorrect used that indicates a segment of time. Time is duration not volume so the use of space is inappropriate. A calendar takes up a space but the time it indicates take up duration. So although "space of time" may be common it is an incorrect indication of time.Srednuas Lenoroc (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see . this is correct English. Thanks. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 17:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed. My Concise Oxford Dictionary, 9th edition, gives nine different ways in which "space" can be used, of which the fourth is "an interval of time". JH (talk page) 17:53, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible image
This image may be of use, though may need checking before being placed in a featured article: "West Indian Labour Force in Britain: Skilled engineers, boiler makers and motor mechanics, all from the West Indies being welcomed at the Ministry of Labour, St James' Square, London. Learie Constantine, the famous cricketer from Trinidad who was employed as a Welfare Officer for West Indians working in Britain, introduces the men to the Minister of Labour, Ernest Bevin." Carcharoth (talk) 00:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * PS. Nelson blue plaque may warrant a mention in the article. Carcharoth (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks good, and I'm pretty certain it is PD-UK, but I'd like some reassurance that it was also PD-US before including it. Otherwise, I'd be happy to put it in. The blue plaque... not too bothered either way but to me a local blue plaque does not really merit inclusion unless it is a really notable one like in London. I'm not even crazy about the London ones, but I wouldn't remove anything that was added. Sarastro1 (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added this image now as I'm relatively happy it is PD-US, and it can be removed if it isn't. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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