Talk:Lee D. Baker

Duke lacrosse case
There appears to be no legitimate reason to include a section about the Duke lacrosse case in this biography. There is nothing in Group of 88 which suggests that Lee Baker played a significant role in the episode. This seems to be a straightforward case of undue weight. I removed the section but my removal was reversed. Nigel Pap (talk) 00:38, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How are you doing "Nigel"? It would help other editors if you were to explain how exactly you have come to the conclusion that it is "straightforward case of undue weight".  Thanks, and welcome to the Mighty Wik!  Hammersbach (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The policy is WP:NPOV, "Hammersbach", and I provided my reasoning. Unless Lee Baker played a significant role in the episode there is no justification for having this section. Nigel Pap (talk) 03:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Right. Will restore to Nigel Pap's version., please do not revert and be mindful of BLP. Drmies (talk) 01:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Professor Lee D. Baker was one of the scholars who discussed the content and signed the letter. He says the group discussed an apology before posting the letter. When asked if the group had considered apologizing, he said:
 * Is this a significant role?

"We had a long discussion about what the word ‘regret’ means, and philosophy professors weighed in and we had a whole range of very detailed discussions in terms of the etymology of specific words. We were disappointed people did not understand the intention — it was never to rush to judgment, it was about listening to our students who have been trying to make their way in a not only racist and sexist campus, but country."

From: http://diverseeducation.com/article/6902/ 209.197.26.76 (talk) 03:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's more like it. Having read about the case it's pretty clear that Baker deserves a mention, but we can only do so when we've got sufficient sources (something that was very clearly lacking in the previous attempt). It would be a good idea to use KC Johnson's book as a source too. Anyway, thanks for making such a useful contribution--Shakehandsman (talk) 04:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "Lee D. Baker was one of the scholars who discussed the content and signed the letter". There is no dispute that Baker was one of 88 people involved in the original ad (and subsequent open letter). How does this make his role significant and deserving of mention in his biography? What new information does this source introduce? Nigel Pap (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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