Talk:Lee Gottfried

Request Edit A
Greg Henderson (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Under "Works" section, please add the following house designed by L.E. Gottfried:
 * Jarvis House (1920s)
 * , while it's understandable you can't immediately review every article, how come the edit requests you make do not include request to remove dubiously sourced contents, like information found on FAMILYSEARCH? I didn't remove it personally, because I'd actually have to go through all the sources and isolate which of the information is supportable by the source that isn't FAMILYSEARCH that is also cited. Graywalls (talk) 06:36, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I should have and just made the request edit. Thanks! Greg Henderson (talk) 13:33, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

❌ you're only citing a historical photo caption that just happens to cover a house Gottfried designed perhaps as a time in point photo but not particularly notable. I declined it for the reason WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Graywalls (talk) 21:10, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The photo of the Jarvis House is notable for the following reasons. The photograph was done by Carmel photographer Lewis Josselyn (notice the L. Josselyn stamp mark on the picture) and built by master builder Lee Gottfried. It is also shows his use of Tudor Revival (English Cottage) and Storybook architecture-styles of roof, overhangs, and archways that are rounded and curved like waves. The link and citation is Encyclopedic content because it covers and links three main areas: Tudor Revival architecture, Lee Gottfried, and photographer Lewis Josselyn. This type of architecture is important because it was buit in the 1920s and is representative of Gottfried's work and style. The Carmel Weavers Studio was built by Gottfried and is another example of this cottage style. Greg Henderson (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The photographer is non-notable. That's the same non notable subject deleted in AfD. This claim of importance should be supported with reliable, secondary source. When it is left to the words of editors wishing to insert it, encyclopedia becomes a pile of indiscriminate information. Graywalls (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Request Edit B
Under early life please remove source citation for familysearch.org. Greg Henderson (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * but is everything in prose directly and completely supportable with the non FamilySearch source? If not, you need to go through and prune what's only supported with FamilySearch. Graywalls (talk) 02:04, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , please explain where you got everything I removed here. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lee_Gottfried&diff=1185968123&oldid=1184397202, other than where the funeral service was held. I removed the funeral service location is excessive unnecessary trivia. When you said to remove FS, you didn't identify FS sourced information and this would've caused the retention of unreliably sourced information. Am I missing something here? Are details of his parents' details covered in sources already cited? Graywalls (talk) 02:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing my edit request. Gottfried's birthdate (July 12, 1896) is listed in his Social Security Death Index; U.S. Death Index; Ohio, County Births; Ohio, U.S. Births adn Christenings Index; as well as the birth year listed on U.S. Census records and his obituary. His birth place is listed in the Ohio, Births and Christenings Index and Ohio, County Births. These are U.S. government issued documents that prove his birth year and birth place. His parents names are also listed in these documents. His wife, Bonnie Adele Hale's birth year is listed under her U.S. Death Index. Are U.S. documents not a reliable sources? What would be the best way to list these sources without saying they came from FamilySearch.org or Ancestry.com? I can upload the source to Internet Archive if that would help. Greg Henderson (talk) 16:34, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOR, WP:PRIMARY. Researching primary sources and assembling primary sources and publishing the connection into a family tree need to be done in a reliable source and the fact its done by users is the reason Family Search and Ancestry are listed as unreliable in WP:RSP. Also, Wikipedia is not genealogy website. Graywalls (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Request Edit C
Greg Henderson (talk) 21:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Under "Works" section, please add the following house designed by L.E. Gottfried:
 * Jarvis House (1920s)
 * The photo of the Jarvis House is notable according to the following reliable, secondary sources:
 * The house was built by master builder Lee Gottfried
 * The photograph was done by Carmel photographer Lewis Josselyn

At least some of this was declined for WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Please do not keep submitting same requests to shop reviewers until you get the result you want. Discuss. You're welcome to post in relevant WikiProject pages asking for input there. Graywalls (talk) 23:19, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Declined, and comment requested at : Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography Graywalls (talk) 00:25, 22 November 2023 (UTC)