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Possible COI
I added the Connected Contributor template to this page because I suspect that the user who created and contributed a number of edits to this page may have a connection with a publisher who has published books by the article's subject and are featured on the page. B bradley26 (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest/ Cleaning up banners
Conflict of interest full disclosure: I am Lee Oser. I am trying to clean up the page that represents me. I want to preserve neutrality of perspective.

I would be grateful for help removing "link rot" and "lengthy quotation" banners. I am technically kind of feeble, though I think I can succeed in eliminating excess quotations and just keeping the citations/notes (see below). Thank you. Brian Osgood (talk) 01:46, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[ reply]

Brian Osgood (talk) 15:20, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Suggested revision for "lengthy quotation" problem:
 * Novels[edit]
 * Out of What Chaos[edit]
 * Set on the West Coast during Bush II's first term, Out of What Chaos (Scarith], 2007) showcases the escapades of Rex and The Brains as they break into the Portland rock scene, record their first CD, and tour from Vancouver to LA behind their chart-topping single, “F U. I Just Want To Get My Rocks Off.” In the end, the boys must make a decision about how to live. Literary critic and theorist, Dr. Jean-Michel Rabaté calls Oser a "worthy debater" and praises Out of What Chaos, saying he "enjoyed it fully." [note]
 * The Oracles Fell Silent[edit]
 * Oser's second novel follows its predecessor by exploring the intersection of pop culture and religion. The young narrator, Richard Bellman, recounts his experience as personal secretary to a sixties' rock legend, Sir Ted Pop.
 * Reviews of The Oracles[edit]
 * Early reviews praised the novel, while focusing on Oser's attempt to address contemporary culture from a Catholic point of view. [all notes]
 * Oregon Confetti[edit]
 * Pushing forty, Portland art dealer Devin Adams has been so successful conning the local Philistines that he can no longer tell actual art from the highly profitable junk that supports his living. But the sudden appearance on his doorstep of the great painter John Sun, bearing a strange child, changes all that, confronting Devin with the hard facts of his life, from his lusts and obsessions to his own small part in a mass psychosis that denies the existence of love.
 * Reviews of Oregon Confetti[edit]
 * Critic Anthony Domestico listed the novel among Commonweal Magazine's Top Books of 2017, saying "Antic, absurdist, comic, and Catholic, this ribald novel grows out of the Evelyn Waugh and John Kennedy Toole tradition." [note]  In other reviews of Oregon Confetti, Oser's Catholic vantage point remained a source of interest and contention. [notes] In October 2018, critic Joseph Pearce listed Oregon Confetti in his list of "The Best of Contemporary Christian Fiction."[note]
 * Interviews for Oregon Confetti[edit]
 * Oser has been interviewed in the following: Crisis Magazine, Dappled Things, Law and Liberty. [notes]

Brian Osgood (talk) 02:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Will do. Brian Osgood (talk) 14:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * And thank you! I really appreciate your time. - Osgood Brian Osgood (talk) 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Johannes,
 * If you get a chance, please look at the changes that you okayed and remove the COI banner.
 * Thank you. Brian Osgood (talk) 20:42, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

I've already posted the request on the Lee Oser talk page, but here it is again. It's strictly a matter of paring down quotations so that the quotation banner can be removed.
Suggested revision for "lengthy quotation" problem: Novels[edit] Out of What Chaos[edit] Set on the West Coast during Bush II's first term, Out of What Chaos (Scarith], 2007) showcases the escapades of Rex and The Brains as they break into the Portland rock scene, record their first CD, and tour from Vancouver to LA behind their chart-topping single, “F U. I Just Want To Get My Rocks Off.” In the end, the boys must make a decision about how to live. Literary critic and theorist, Dr. Jean-Michel Rabaté calls Oser a "worthy debater" and praises Out of What Chaos, saying he "enjoyed it fully." [note] The Oracles Fell Silent[edit] Oser's second novel follows its predecessor by exploring the intersection of pop culture and religion. The young narrator, Richard Bellman, recounts his experience as personal secretary to a sixties' rock legend, Sir Ted Pop. Reviews of The Oracles[edit] Early reviews praised the novel, while focusing on Oser's attempt to address contemporary culture from a Catholic point of view. [all notes] Oregon Confetti[edit] Pushing forty, Portland art dealer Devin Adams has been so successful conning the local Philistines that he can no longer tell actual art from the highly profitable junk that supports his living. But the sudden appearance on his doorstep of the great painter John Sun, bearing a strange child, changes all that, confronting Devin with the hard facts of his life, from his lusts and obsessions to his own small part in a mass psychosis that denies the existence of love. Reviews of Oregon Confetti[edit] Critic Anthony Domestico listed the novel among Commonweal Magazine's Top Books of 2017, saying "Antic, absurdist, comic, and Catholic, this ribald novel grows out of the Evelyn Waugh and John Kennedy Toole tradition." [note] In other reviews of Oregon Confetti, Oser's Catholic vantage point remained a source of interest and contention. [notes] In October 2018, critic Joseph Pearce listed Oregon Confetti in his list of "The Best of Contemporary Christian Fiction."[note] Interviews for Oregon Confetti[edit] Oser has been interviewed in the following: Crisis Magazine, Dappled Things, Law and Liberty. [notes]
 * What I think should be changed (include citations):

To meet Wiki protocol and to remove the relevant banner.
 * Why it should be changed:

Brian Osgood (talk) 15:27, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I don't quite understand what you're trying to accomplish here; the text below cites no sources, is still lengthy, and seems to incorporate a citation style that is prone to failed verification. This cannot be implemented. Best regards, -- Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 11:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your feedback, Johannes. Each note would be the same as the notes that are currently cited. In other words, the sources are there in the article already. If the proposed revision seems lengthy, I welcome suggestions about what to cut. Best regards, Osgood Brian Osgood (talk) 14:03, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I see now that this note is the second of two on 1 May. Please see what you think my work of today. I do not check the "Lee Oser" page very often. So I apologize for the delayed response.  Brian Osgood (talk) 16:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

COI tag (February 2023)
I flagged this for a COI check as looking at the history of the article, it seems that COI issues go back to when first created. As it looks like editors are going to manage the other flagged issues, it would be worth going through this just to make sure it meets NPOV at the same time. - Bilby (talk) 09:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC) Bilby (talk) 09:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Bilby. I too would like the page to be as NPOV as possible. I appreciate your efforts. Brian Osgood (talk) 12:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Bilby,
 * I have shortened the text of "Lee Oser" following the approval from Johannes Maximilian. I hesitate to delete the banners and would be grateful if you would consider doing so. - Osgood Brian Osgood (talk) 14:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to hearing from you, Bilby. Brian Osgood (talk) 01:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Banners
Would someone please remove the banners? Thank you. Brian Osgood (talk) 01:37, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As you have continued to edit the article with a conflict of interest, unfortunately the COI tag needs to remain until it is independently checked. - Bilby (talk) 01:44, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Bilby.
 * Please allow me a few more words.
 * From my perspective, I did as you said, and so I am confused by your not removing the COI banner.
 * In other words, the changes I made were approved:
 * Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I ask you to please consider my intention, and to please reconsider the matter of the COI banner.
 * Your grateful correspondent,
 * LO Brian Osgood (talk) 11:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As you made changes, the article was edited by someone with a COI. Therefore it needs to be independently reviewed. - Bilby (talk) 11:38, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, Sir. I appreciate your time and effort. For what it's worth, I have not asked anyone to edit anything, and I don't recognize the names of editors who made changes. But what do I know (Que sçay-je?)
 * In any case, I'll wait a while and then ask, on this "Talk" page, if a neutral editor could please remove the COI banner. If that is not alright with you, please let me know.
 * Since you have philosophical interests, I send along my recent debate about books:
 * https://www.realclearpolitics.com/disputed_questions/what-is-the-relationship-between-books-and-a-healthy-culture.html  Best, LO Brian Osgood (talk) 12:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I see now that your "As" = Because, ie., "Because you made changes..." "Because you yourself made changes...." Thanks again. Brian Osgood (talk) 14:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

COI Banner
Hi Wikifolk - Responding to a "lengthy quotation" tag, I made cuts that were approved by a neutral editor: "I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page." Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:51, 1 May 2023

Today I was informed by another editor that, because I personally made the changes, someone else needs to review them for neutrality, in order to remove the COI banner: "As you made changes, the article was edited by someone with a COI. Therefore it needs to be independently reviewed." - Bilby (talk) 11:38, 21 June 2023

Anyone up for an independent review? I appreciate your time and consideration.

Brian Osgood (talk) 14:14, 21 June 2023 (UTC)