Talk:Lee Raymond

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--- I dont know dates, but I feel like something about his recent appointment should be posted: Bush’s Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman has hand-picked former ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond to lead an influential study to develop policy solutions to America’s energy crisis. 03:42, 04 November 2006

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What's with the "neckbeard" claim? Are their any references to back that up? It seems questionable to me.

amRadioHed 06:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

"neckbeard" as in having a "beard" made out of neck. Funny, but it's gotta go. (btw, is this the best picture of the guy we can find?)Vesperal 04:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In the first comment on this page (which was subsequently removed), I initially stated: "I heartily recommend adding the frequently-seen "bloated plutocrat" photo of Lee Raymond to this article." This image request has now been fulfilled. Thank you to Alphajc for supplying the requested image. - CNichols 04:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

From my research the 30 million gallons of oil spilled seems high. All the sources I read say it was 11 million gallons. Should this be changed ((Anon))

There's not a whole lot here about exactly what he did during his 12 years at the top. But the ReferenceForBusiness biography has some details. Mporter 05:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Anyone have the email of this guy?? Why is he investing so much money and resources on silencing global warming scientists instead of paying scientists to research new renewable energies and be the first company to generate tons of profit from that??

He is a member of Augusta National, that should be included.

Birth date
Hmmm... He was born in 1989?? Perhaps someone should correct that... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.152.243.115 (talk • contribs).
 * Fixed. Thanks. ×Meegs 15:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

WHAT A HORRIBLE HUMAN! and ofcourse a republican, no shame!!! Double hull oil tankers??? a Joke! Post he`s e-mail adress and spit on him (and bush) if ya see them!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.94.36 (talk) 15:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

standard pension plan provided to all ExxonMobil employees
totaled around $100 million, calculated based on his over forty years of service and his salary upon retirement.

i do not know the specifics of the exxonmobil pension plan, but i simply do not believe that the $100 million amount is payable from the "standard" pension plan. 401(a)17, and 415(b) regulations would make a benefit payout of this size nearly impossible from a qualified pension plan. raymond might be part of a special non-qual or executive plan, but no qualified pension plan (the "standard pension plan provided to all ExxonMobil employees") that i've ever heard of makes payouts of this size. Theroyalweman (talk|user|contribs) 16:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I do know the specifics of the ExxonMobil pension plan, having worked there for three years straight out of college. It's pretty standard fare for defined-benefit pensions: 1.6% of your salary upon retirement per year of service, paid annually post-retirement. You furthermore have the option of taking a lump-sum distribution upon retirement rather than the annual payments, and there is a defined formula for calculating the lump sum. Since he was making 12 million in salary upon retirement, with 43 years of service, that would entitle him to more than 8.2 million a year in pension. The formula for calculating the lump-sum payment makes it 98 million. If you had read any of the two sources that I added (including the SEC disclosure), you would have seen this. --JrStonehenge 21:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC) -- Right. He certainly did not get as much as he deserved. 400 million is a pittance for an Ubermensch like him. Maybe the fair-minded taxpayer ought to chip in and double the amount to a still puny 800 million. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.81.143.149 (talk) 06:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Criticism
Re: these edits Criticism of Raymond's role at the AEI is okay but if so, it needs to bs specifically including Raymond and not just generically at the AEI. Criticism of the AEI may be appropriate for this article, but should be broadbased, well referenced and short. Something like "The AEI has come under criticism for it's alleged role in funding denial of global warming" or whatever.

Criticism of Raymond's tenure as CEO of Exxon may be appropriate but again, it needs to be relating to Raymond's role. Mentioning that Raymond was President of Exxon during the Exxon-Valdez disaster would probably be okay provided it doesn't get off track into excessive commentary on the disaster.

Finally all of this needs sourcing if it's to be included. Nil Einne (talk) 11:02, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * In 1989, when the Exxon Valdez spill occurred, Lawrence G. Rawls was Chairman and CEO. Raymond did not succeed Rawls as head of Exxon until 1993.. While true that he was President, the statement implies that he was in the top job. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 12:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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Legacy
I have made a change to the Legacy section. A recent edit claims he is a war criminal and should be prosecuted. The programme it cites does not say that, so I have removed: "In the new BBC2 documentary being shown in July 2022, plenty of evidence is produced that Raymond is a war criminal and should be prosecuted as such. His legacy is likely to be the death of all life on earth, eg extinction, so there is probably a law to cover that."

I have replaced it with an actual quote from the programme. Joss (talk) 17:09, 23 July 2022 (UTC)