Talk:Left Party (Sweden)/Archive 3

Socialist feminist party
The socialist feminism is different from other types of feminism.Some feminists are liberals,conservatives etc Heaven98765 (talk) 16:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Eco-socialism
The party is both a socialist and a green party and is a member of the NordicGREEN-Left Alliance. The party cares just as much about green politics as it does democratic socialism, so the ideology should be listed as "Eco-socialism" like the other members of the Nordic Green-Left Alliance instead of "Socialism." Sbrianhicks (talk) 04:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, that is not correct. "ecosocialism" is not merely socialists who care about environment, it refers to a specific trend of thought that this part has never really been part of. As per NGLA, it is not an international with a common ideological platform, but a cooperation with parties with somewhat distinct backgrounds. In Sweden the left and green movement are distinct political entities. This situation differs from Norway and Denmark, were the explicitly green parties never made a breakthrough and green politics have been channelled through SF/SV instead to a large extent.
 * A few years ago, there was a proposal to proclaim that the Left Party was based on four pillars (socialism, feminism, environment, internationalism), which was rejected by the party congress in favour of retaining socialism and feminism as the ideological pillars of the party. --Soman (talk) 15:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If you would just look at the source that I've cited, concerning the ideologies of the Left Party, as your dated all the way back to 1997. While there, since then, has passed many congresses and party programmes. Enviromental issues take up a very central part in Left Party politics, as the most recent party programme says "Vänsterpartiet är ett socialistiskt och feministiskt parti på ekologisk grund." - "The Left Party is a socialist and feminist party with an ecological basis". The four issues dealt with in the election platform included Dags för klimaträttvisa - "Time for climate justice". This is an article discussing the changes made at the last congress, in 2008, published by the party itself, stating that: "Miljö- och klimatfrågorna får större plats i vänsterpartiets nya partiprogram" - "Enviromental and climate issues take up a larger space in the Left Party new party programme", and for example "Vänsterpartiet för in ett helt nytt stycke om ett grundläggande ekologiskt förhållningssätt i programmet." - "The Left Party is introducing a totally new section about a fundamental ecological approach in the programme". --Qszet (talk) 01:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. At the 2008 congress there was a proposal to introduce ecologism on equal footing with socialism and feminism. That proposal was rejected, the formulation chosed (and quoted by you) is somewhat of a compromise. There remains a separation between ideological foundations (socialism, feminism) and a perspective (environmental issues). "Ecologism" or "Environmentalism" cannot be reduced to merely having a passage on ecological issues in the party programme, all major political parties have such a chapter in their party programme. --Soman (talk) 02:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Admirers of mass murderer Stalin
Despite name changes of the party they are admirers of mass murderer Stalin and other communist mass murderers.
 * Thank you for your insightful contribution. --Qszet (talk) 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

What is the point in keeping this? I can not deleat this cuz wikipedia sais it counts as vandalisation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.17.165.233 (talk) 23:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Trolling. You need sources for those accusations. There are supporters of the communist ideology in the left party, but that isn't the same as supporting Stalin or other mass murderers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.255.166.199 (talk) 00:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Are all christians supporters of the terrible crimes against humanity in the name of christianity? - Of course not! And the same goes for socialists, supporting the idea of the classless society doesn't mean you think Stalin was right! ��5.150.243.128 (talk) 08:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2014
In introduction change: "On welfare issues, the party opposes privatizations. Moreover, the party opposes Swedish membership of the Euro currency and advocates increased public expenditure.

From 1998 to 2006, the Left Party was in an arrangement with the ruling Social Democrats and the Greens. Until then it also supported the Social Democratic minority government in the Swedish parliament, as well as in many of Sweden's counties and municipalities."

To

The party is profiled in welfare issues and labor market policies. On welfare issues the party wants to increase public investments, hire more personnel in schools, hospitals and nursing homes and prohibit private contractors in the public sector to take out taxpayer money as private profits. More over the party wants to prohibit employers to hire workers trough staffing companies and legislate the right to full time employment.

The party has traditionally parliamentary supported various Social Democratic governments, but has never been part of the government itself. Around the country, in counties and municipalities, the party usually form coalitions with the Social Democrats and the Greens.

- (These changes gives a more accurate contemporary view on the parties current policies and its history).

And under policies change the whole section to:

The Left party has promoted the following political policy during the last 10-15 years:
 * Bulleted list item Give everyone the right to a job and make and the goal of the economic policy full employment.
 * Bulleted list item Take several government-initiatives to equal the gener-gap between men and woman.
 * Bulleted list item Strengthen labor laws.
 * Bulleted list item Invest in green technology, climate renovations of public buildings and begin to phase out nuclear power.
 * Bulleted list item Prohibit private contractors in the public sector to take out taxpayer money in private profits.
 * Bulleted list item Sweden should begin to renounce its membership in the EU and stay out of the EMU.
 * Bulleted list item Increase the number of refuges that are allowed to stay in Sweden and introduce a national action plan against racism in Swedish society.

Fak35columbia (talk) 02:06, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Do we have some non-primary sources to back it up? Sam Sailor Sing 10:21, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 12:16, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

New logotype
I have changed the logotype to the new one. Dnm (talk) 13:47, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

"Democratic socialism" and "eurosceptisism"
There seems to be a slight edit war going on regarding these two terms that have been added to the ideology section of the infobox. We've had previous discussions of the subject - a recent one just above this regarding the term ecosocialism. I would claim we came to the conclusion that socialism and feminism are the two fundamental ideological aspects of the party. This is also the solution that I support.

The Left Party is without doubt a eurosceptical party, but that's just one of many specific subjects of which the party has an opinion. It should however not be seen as one of the ideological foundations of the party. Democratic socialism is a term that's not widely used in any relevant document by the party. That the party leader mentioned the term in one of his speeches is not reason enough for adding it, for exactly the same reason as I earlier stated. It also gives the impression that there's a democratic socialism and a non-democratic socialism and that the distinction between these would be a current subject for discussion within the party, which I would say it is not. --Qszet (talk) 13:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed on all points. Democratic socialism is obscure term in documents relating to the party + lacks third party sources. --4idaho (talk) 18:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Left Wing or Far Left
Isn't a communist party inherently far left rather than left wing?Royalcourtier (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:29, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Au contraire. In most Western European countries, the 'far left' has traditionally been the parties to the left of the established Communist Party (most notably in France). --Soman (talk) 17:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, the Left Party isn't communist anymore, as the article explains, so the question is moot. Sjö (talk) 20:18, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I reverted the recent change from left-wing to far-left. Dnm (talk) 20:07, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Far left
Isn't the Left Party far left rather than left wing? It is essentially the Swedish communist party, and is to the left of the social democrats and mainstream leftist/socialist parties. There are no significant (or even minor) parties to its left.Royalcourtier (talk) 06:33, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * They did leave the Communist ideology long ago, and there are parties to the left, e.g. the Communist Party (Sweden) and the Socialist Justice Party. While there is no common definition of left-wing and far-left, I don't think that it's correct to label it far left. Sjö (talk) 07:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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Confidence and supply 1998-2006 and "until then"
This is stated in the lead:

''From 1998 to 2006, the Left Party was in a confidence and supply arrangement with the ruling Social Democrats and the Green Party. Until then it also supported the Social Democrats and Greens minority government in the Swedish parliament, as well as in many of Sweden's counties and municipalities.''

However, there were no greens in the Swedish cabinet until 2014, which the text now implies. It is also doubtful what the "until then" means. Well, they passively supported or tolerated the Social democrats during many decades, but could that be clearer stated? Fomalhaut76 (talk) 11:19, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The sentence is terribly worded. 1) Basically, during 1998-2006 Sweden had Social Democratic minority government which relied on parliamentary support from the Left and Green parties. There were no Left or Green cabinet ministers, but there was a formal 3-party agreement and coordination mechanisms. The Left and Green parties some political staff inside ministries, for example. 2) Prior to 1998, the Left Party provided parliamentary support to Social Democratic governments at many times, however without formal arrangements, 3) the Left Party has participated in a lot of municipal coalition governments, in particular from 1994 and onwards, often in coalitions of Social Democrats and Green Party. --Soman (talk) 07:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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