Talk:Legends Weekend

How is this significant?
One famous woman had a party for other famous women. Good for her, good for them. Nothing wrong with that (though charities might have been grateful for the money spent on the diamond earrings for all) Er, so? Does this matter to anybody else, and if so, how?

If it does matter in some way, do the details matter? Here's just one example. Originally, we read that Winfrey prayed to God, no less, that everything would turn out OK. Since the the US is known to be a God-obsessed nation, I've cut "to God" as superfluous. Now she's just praying that the party wouldn't screw up. But don't all host(esse)s pray that parties won't screw up? How's this significant?

(On the tentative assumption that it somehow does matter in some way, I've done a lot of other rewriting work on the article too.)

-- Hoary 06:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Hmm, well no offense, Hoary, but you did read the article right? It is in the opening sentence talking about how the event was important for recognizing the achievements of Africian Americian women. I think I also mentioned later on that the event was important because nothing like this had ever been done before in history. In the USA, women and Africian Americians are minorties who often do no get recognized for their achievements. When women do get recognized, unfortunatley, often its white women. When Africian Americians get recogznied, often its black men. So, you see its hard for Africian Americian women to get the recognition they deserve. Oprah realized this, and helped make the ceremony to help recognize this problem.


 * They made a big deal about that part when Oprah was talking about the show. OmegaWikipedia 07:08, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


 * (1) Look, I'm not going to argue against the proposition that Blacks and women are discriminated against and that the Black woman combo is discriminated against more. But this non-event (as described in the article) strikes me as ludicrous as a way of "recognizing" Black women. Winfrey gathered celebrities, people who are already well (or hugely) paid, and well (or hugely) known. This event was such a big deal that the search function of the NYT website gives a total of zero hits for either "oprah" or "winfrey" plus "legends ball". Look this stuff up in Google and you'll see it's strictly showbiz. Couldn't she have invited anybody who wasn't at home behind a mike or on a talk show? Perhaps not. I'm not criticizing her. She's welcome to throw a party and invite anyone she wants, and to get as much mileage out of it as possible. But I don't see why a publicity bash like this merits an article in Wikipedia.


 * (2) Who are "they"? And how is this more than smalltalk about the obvious? -- Hoary 09:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Facts?
Again, I proceed on the rather far-fetched (to me) assumption that this "event" is somehow significant....

When did it happen?

-- Hoary 06:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I forget exactly, but sometime in May OmegaWikipedia 07:08, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


 * of what year?. These things are important in an encylopedia. Crunch 14:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The ecstasy of earrings
Again, I proceed on the rather far-fetched (to me) assumption that this "event" is somehow significant....

We read the last time around: ''At the end of the luncheon, Winfrey surprised her guests with a mysterious box, instructing them to open them. As they opened them, they shrieked in ectasy and disbelief; each contained diamond earrings.''
 * (Ec s tasy, I think!)
 * Well, what were they expected to do? Yawn and mumble "Oh yeah, diamond earrings again"? It seems as if this article is breathlessly repeating hype from the TV show. But this is an encyclopedia, not a compendium of recycled PR work. -- Hoary 10:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

merge with Oprah Winfrey
Since this appears to have been a mere publicity non-event, since this publicity non-event seems such a minor branch of a subject (Winfrey) that it doesn't deserve an article, since it's worsened by its longwindedness and gushing tone, since the request for a greater reason for its importance has gone unanswered since September, and in view of what's written in Deletion policy, I suggest a merge with Oprah Winfrey. -- Hoary 03:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, a merge is certainly necessary here. joturner 21:31, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Weak disagreement, I don't care about this event, but it's a long enough article that including it in the Oprah article would be excessive, and comparatively speaking, there are episodes of TV shows which merit articles, and this is at least as important as any of those, and far more complete than many. Oops, sorry, didn't realize I wasn't logged in. FrozenPurpleCube 18:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree, I'm going to attempt to merge this into the main Oprah article. Ckessler 05:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Anon editor, stop editing this page; it has been merged with the main Oprah page. If you want to add information, add to the Legends Weekend section on that page. Ckessler 00:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe the section shold not be merged with the Oprah page. It's important on its own. ....added at 01:32, 24 May 2006 by 70.225.182.5


 * First, it has already been merged. Secondly, you don't attempt to explain how it's important. -- Hoary 03:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)