Talk:Legends of the Hidden Temple/2005-2006

Missing Pendant of Life?
In the episode "The Secret Map of the Bandit Queen, after the Red Jaguars and the Silver Snakes (Zac Turney and Miriam) each got a half-pendant, and after the Silver Snakes won, they were supposed to get a full pendant, but in the Temple, they only got one, and if a Temple Guard showed up when Zac arrived to get the map, they would've lost! There was a problem in Legends as big as Olmec's stone head. They were supposed to get a full pendant for getting the answer right in the tiebreaker! --Seishirou Sakurazuka 23:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge, the Silver Snakes had won both half pendants in the first two temple games, then lost the full-pendant round to the Red Jaguars. No pendants can be won from the tiebreaker round alone. Nicklegends 17:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Merging text in
The following text may be merged with this article, per Articles for deletion/List of Legends of the Hidden Temple episodes. &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 22:46, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Imported text:

(edited out really long list of episodes that can be found on fansites - Goldrushcavi 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC))

Best regards, &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 22:46, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Kool|Mr. Kool]] 20:28, 5 February 2006 (UTC) Mr. Kool

What Hidden Temple remake?
Some anonymous user keeps adding information about a supposed remake of Legends of the Hidden Temple. I would assume this is all false information unless someone can give proof that such a remake does in fact exist, because this is the first I have ever heard about it. Furthermore, the Internet Movie Database does not mention this remake at all.

Until there is proof, I will assume this is all false information, and, therefore, vandalism.

Half-pendants?
This page used to read that a player picked up a half-pendant only in one episode, when, according to "The King's Storeroom" page, it happened at least three other times. I've listed a couple, but after the second new one I stopped, since I don't know which is accurate.


 * There's many Temple Runs when the second player picks up the extra half Pendant, but I think you've read of how this happened only once in the first season. The only first-season episode in which a player finds and picks up the additional half Pendant of Life is "The Treasure of Anne Bonny" (Season 1, Layout IX).


 * This too is fancruft and should not be in the article to begin with. --Goldrushcavi 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

"List of Temple Rooms and layouts" Imported
I went to the IRC channel to report repeated vandalism on the List of Temple Rooms and layouts page, and it was suggested that I go ahead and merge that info into this article and set up a redirect because it did not fit the style of all the rest of the "list" pages on WP. --SSTwinrova 19:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Temple Shirts Link
This has been removed on a few occasions as "advertising", but I think it is a valid link to include. Are there any WP guidelines that point one way or the other on this issue?? --SSTwinrova 22:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Update: April 11 -- Another link to a store selling shirts got added, so instead of saying "Well, that first one is OK but this one isn't", I made a specific subsection for those links to go in. Again, I think these fall into a gray area of whether or not to include them at all, but since they aren't doing any harm being there, I say leave them. --SSTwinrova 00:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I think they should be removed...it looks lame...and, is indeed advertising. Modor 22:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Modor

I used one of those links and now I am the proud owner of a Green Monkeys shirt. I only searched wiki for this show because I wanted a shirt, Wiki came through. I hope the links stay. Stacmaster 3 03:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Jeopardy?
Are we sure that Legends was a featured category on Jeopardy? I know Legends well enough to have written a fansite on the show, but I've never come across anything that had to do with Jeopardy. Nicklegends 01:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That was added in at the same general time as one of the numerous vandalism attempts, so I don't know if it's true or not. --SSTwinrova 04:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Teams Trivia Original Research
In the trivia section, wouldn't the "points system orchestrated by a fan" constitute original research? KevinPuj 23:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I have removed it, as it could be considered original research, and it is unrelated to any statistic actually used on the show. --Goldrushcavi 22:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Statistics, temple run notes, etc.
Are all the statistics on temple runs etc. really necessary? This information is more appropriate for a fan site rather than an encyclopedia article that will be perused mostly by casual fans/viewers of the show (and may also be considered original research). I already removed the fan statistic about the teams getting "points" for temple runs, etc. as this is the product of one fan's imagination. --Goldrushcavi 22:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree completely. This article, while undoubtedly very comprehensive, has too many side notes to be encyclopedic. What specific actions should be taken, though? Nicklegends 05:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps break off the entire trivia section into its own article?? --SSTwinrova 19:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I would not be opposed to removing the entire section as trivial an unecyclopedic. If someone wanted to make their own website (apart from Wikipedia) with all these records, we could then link to it. I'll wait a little while and then remove the content. Croctotheface 21:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, after investigating the links, it appears that the content IS found elsewhere on the web. As Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, I'm going to remove the unwieldy trivia sections, however interesting they may be.  Croctotheface 06:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Temple Guards
"Over the show's 120-episode span, three temple guards died whilst performing their sacred duty of protecting the Temple from pilfering children. They were all given military burials with full honors at Arlington National Cemetary."

...ooookay, nice joke. It's a joke, right? Right?! Viewer 07:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Guess so. Cracker017, thanks. Viewer 04:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Constant petty vandalism
The same people keep changing things like "Cave of Size" to "Cave of Signs", "Pit of Despair" to "Pit of the Pendulumn", and even adding room names that never existed. They should be marked for vandalism. Their changes are subtle, making them even worse.


 * Actually, the "Pit of Despair" was often called two different names at the same time. For Season 2, Layouts 4 and 5, it was simply "The Pit." for Season 3, it was "The Pit of the Pendulum." You are correct about the Cave, though. It's either "Size," "Sighs," or "Scythes," but nobody knows for sure. It's probably not "Signs," however. Nicklegends 00:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * When watching a Season 1 episode on Nick GAS, I had the closed-captioning on, and it said "Cave of Sighs". --Libertyernie2 18:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think closed captioning is reliable. Puddytang 04:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds very well-meaning to be vandalism. Perhaps an explanation in the article detailing the ambiguity? Danielsan1701 22:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the "Cave of Sighs." For a fact. VelvetKevorkian 12:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

"Temple Layouts and Episodes" Section Cleanup
The list of episodes got merged in, so now this section is very long and unwieldly. Do we want to remove the majority of the episodes, leaving only the "notable" ones (maybe like top 20 across all three seasons), or does anyone else have a better suggestion about how to structure all the information? --SSTwinrova 03:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * That section makes the entire article look awful! Ideally, we can do what the The Simpsons article has done and create a separate page for Legends episodes. That would clean everything up and organize things in a meaningful way. Furthermore, the pages the episode titles link to are very poorly written, and provide a significant portion of subjective content, while not crediting their source (me) for most of their trivia information. Both need to change. --Nicklegends 23:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Part of the problem is that there was one but it was nominated for deletion and then merged into this article. Basically, I think that this just might be too niche for here on Wikipedia. Maybe we should look at creating a separate Legends wiki (where all the trivia, episode, etc. stuff could have a home) and linking to it, and then go about pruning this article down to the truly descriptive information about the show. Also, I agree that the episode description pages are poorly written; that's why I added the copyedit template to each one. --SSTwinrova 02:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Mask of Shaka Zulu Production Error
I want to make one thing clear: The notion that the Mask of Shaka Zulu temple run contained a production error began as purely speculation on my site and has not been confirmed at all. In this article, it seems to be treated more or less as a known fact. I will edit all the instances in the article very shortly. --Nicklegends 23:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


 * But according to The Mandarin Hand's review of the episode, Kirk was surprised when the door from the Holes of Python to the Tomb of the Ancient Kings opened, which supports that it must have been a production error. Besides, no other Temple Runs required contestants to enter only five rooms to get to the artifact— not even "The Jeweled Scabbard of Sforza," in which at least six had to be entered.


 * Kirk did sound slightly surprised, and I do see the argument that a production error occurred (after all, I did use it on my website); I just want to emphasize that it is not known for sure and should not be treated as such. Thank you for commenting, though. --Nicklegends 02:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Couple of things wrong here: This bit of information is not really what you would call encyclopedic; even if it were factual, it would still be considered original research. --Goldrushcavi 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Another production defect?
I recently saw "The Golden Cup of Belshazzar" (Season 1, Layout V), and it looks like there was a door that was supposed to open but wouldn't. Okay, so Catherine got to the Room of Harmonic Convergence but the door wouldn't open to the Swamp, and then she went all the way to the Treasure Room before she was grabbed. When Sean got there, nothing worked. He tried the door into the Shrine of the Silver Monkey— unsuccessfully, of course, since the Cup was in there. Then he opened the treasure chest— and although I didn't see him get in it and try to climb down, it seems like the door down into the Swamp didn't open.

It's obvious the next room in the path would've been the Swamp, but do you think the door from the Treasure Room actually didn't open or he just didn't notice (as in he thought he had to both hit an actuator and open the chest to go into the Shrine)? I'd like to know if anyone can confirm this.


 * Check the fan sites. --Goldrushcavi 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

About the Episode Numbers
May I ask where the information on the episode numbers cam from? I know for a fact that the War Fan episode is misnumbered. --Nicklegends 04:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It appears that every episode number was taken from the IDs at the end of my episode pages' URLs, which are not indications in any way as to in what order the episodes were created (rather, they were just unique IDs to facilitate commenting on the episodes when I was still adding things to my site). I will remove all of the episode numbers now, but I am not yet willing to alphebetize the episodes. --Nicklegends 01:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I put those in, mistaking the IDs as production numbers within each layout. I'm not a Wikipedia member, but I am a big fan of Legends who had only seen a few episodes of the show when it aired on Nickelodeon.  I think I read on TV.com that the War Fan episode was the last one aired, so I put it last.  (However, now I think "The Lion-Headed Bracelet of Chandragupta" was episode 120, though it's one of the few episodes I haven't seen.)  Again, I apologize for misnumbering the episodes, though from now on I'll try to provide any confirmed information I can find.

Temple Run Trivia
Whoever deleted the trivia about temple runs, PLEASE revert it or put it into another article, there was a lot of quality information there.


 * Please see the discussion section entitled "Statistics, temple run notes, etc." This information is considered fancruft and is not appropriate for an encyclopedic article on this program.  Please refer to the multitude of fan sites listed at the bottom of the article for all this information and more.  Also it would help if you signed your comments :)  --Goldrushcavi 00:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

False information on other pages
I was searching for other pages related to Legends of the Hidden Temple, and it appears there has been incorrect information copied onto other pages of Wikipedia that can be connected to Legends. For example, the page Jack Johnson (actor) read as follows:

"Jack Johnson (born April 7, 1987) in Los Angeles, California is an American actor whose main claim to fame is his performance as Will Robinson in the 1998 movie, Lost in Space.

Johnson lived in Los Angeles before attending Wesleyan University in Connecticut. He is the grandson of screenwriter Nunnally Johnson and actress Dorris Bowdon.

'He was a contestant on Legends of the Hidden Temple'' in 1997, on the Purple Parrots team. He did not make it past Round Two (The Steps of Knowledge).'''

He composes classical music which has been featured on National Public Radio."

What's wrong with this picture? Legends of the Hidden Temple ended production in 1995, at which time Jack would've been too young to participate. I deleted the paragraph about his supposed appearance on Legends, but I'd like to know if there's more incorrect information linked to Legends among the other pages.