Talk:Legião Urbana

Reference to the claim
If someone want to add reference to the claim that this band "draw influence" on English bands such as The Smiths or Joy Division, seek www.allmusic.com and the album overviews made by Eduardo Rivadavia (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0zftxq9kldje). --Homem de Letras (talk) 13:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

look, i've made an article for almost every album legião urbana owns. i know this page is a translation from pt, but pt.wikipedia does not have the album frame, the reason why i'd rather work at en.wikipedia. the point is: shoould i merge every album information to the respective article, or should i not? i'm just asking, since it seems people are still working on this article. it'd make it clearer and free the album articles from the stub status. i'd like to merge right now, but i'd rather ask. i'm merging next week, if no one opposes. Cetheriel 23:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

go ahead man. well i think you already did 'cause this is old huauhauha. i just would like to say that brazil is a really poor country. the brazilian culture is really poor, and i know that because i am brazilian. it really sucks. almost everything is just covered pornography, or remakes of things the other countries don't want anymore. everything is fake and unhealthy. and that's the main reason the country is so screwed up, we have no culture. LEGIÃO URBANA it's the only good thing brazilian art has ever seen, so i think it really derserves a good article. a well written article. so anything you think will help to improve it just do, don't even ask. unfortunatly the few good things produced in brazil are not exported (just stupid carnival, mulatas and soccer, that's not us) i mean is not like USA that any shit is sold around the world. it would be GREAT to have a band like LEGIÃO been exported at least in a wikipedia article, 'cause the world would have a lot to gain. RENATO RUSSO deserves it. he's much better than lots of "musicians" that just make success thanks to their birthplaces. that's it. i'm sorry if i talk too much.


 * don't be sorry, life would be just great if everyone did. though renato russo is not the only thing brazilian art has to offer, his poetry deserves a good treatment (should i say coverage) worldwide, just as cazuza's or some others. yet i want (need) to tell you two things: 1.there are many reasons why brazil is being guided towards complete failure, and among them let's just say submissive economic policies, and popular politcal apathy. yet, instead of just crying our pitys about it won't change anything. 2. please, sign whenever you talk to someone. capi 16:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I've done some work and expansion on most of the albums' individual articles, and I think they still can be improved further. My opinion is that the band's article should have a rundown of the band's history, important events, changes and such. The details for each album specifically, such as track lists, comments on the songs, etc., should be placed on the respective album's article. That's how most band articles are done here, and the format works well. I've based the albums' articles on the WikiProject model, and created a "template" to be placed on the footer of each article. I hope they are useful enough. As an aside, it's quite a stretch to say this band is the best the country has to offer. It's just that most of the best acts are too obscure nowadays; with that in mind, it's easy to understand why os Mutantes are touring on Europe and on the USA and not here. SirMustapha 02:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge Discussion for Que país é este?
Merge: I have recommended that Que país é este? be merged into this article, because I feel that Que país é este? fails the notability test in WP:BAND. I recognize that this has been covered above to some extent. However, the article for Que país é este? fails to assert any standalone notability, and therefore belongs in the main article for the band. Discuss. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: WP:BAND says the following about articles such as this:
 * "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting."
 * I feel that without some assertion of notability, and some improvements, Que país é este? fails this requirement. For instance, the main article has the sales figure for Que país é este?, but the Que país é este? article itself does not. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge Discussion for Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV
Merge: I have recommended that Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV be merged into this article, because I feel that Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV fails the notability test in WP:BAND. I recognize that this has been covered above to some extent. However, the article for Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV fails to assert any standalone notability, and therefore belongs in the main article for the band. Discuss. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: WP:BAND says the following about articles such as this:
 * "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting."
 * I feel that without some assertion of notability, and some improvements, Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV fails this requirement. For instance, the main article has the sales figure for Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV, but the Legião Urbana - Acústico MTV article itself does not. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Note On Reason Why I'm Not Suggesting A Merge For All Pages
At this time, I'm not interested in seeing a merger of all of the album pages for this band. The two that I have suggested above have been suggested due to issues within those articles. The other articles seem to at least assert notability, and thus pass WP:BAND. Whether they should actually be merged with this article is more of a stylistic determination, and thus I'll leave it for discussion by individuals more active in the editing of this particular article. Jo7hs2 (talk) 17:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep both. If you look carefully, there's really quite a lot information on those two pages besides track listing (covers, release and song information), also sales could be added to these articles. I think that the focus of these articles should be on improving them, merging them to the main article would be almost like deleting them because it would be too much to move all of the information there. It would also be a mess, if there's extended information on two albums while others have own articles. As I see it, the album article fails to meet the requirements if there's only a line like "*** is an album by ***, released in ***" besides the track listing. Anrod (talk) 16:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep both per above, merging them would lead to an unnecessary increase of the size of the article. A few more information could be provided, though. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 17:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)