Talk:Leigh Bowery

Sprawling Mess
This is a sprawling hagiographic mess of an article that deserves substantial editing/re-writing (from a Neutral point of view). Some of it barely makes any sense:

"Leigh Bowery, periferal in the notion of art practice by combining dandyism and body art, reconstructed his image while performing ...[he] uses the expression of the 'other' to create a form of cultural lip-syncing transvestism.[1] 	”

This is just gobbledegook trying to masquerade as 'art speak'. Meaningless.

"At this time, Margaret Thatcher was in power and, although they were making a good living, times were hard for Bowery without a trust fund. The only escape was in the secret underworld of often polysexual or gay nightclubs."

How come "times were hard" if "they were making a good living"? And WTF has Margaret Thatcher got to do with any of it?????

That's just two examples - there are loads more.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.84.77 (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Agree - This paragraph is a shocker as well,

"He later excited the fashion crowd with a performance at SMact, a short-lived SM Night at Bar Industria. Using Nazi costumes with a lesbian friend named Barbara, they turned concentration camp experimentation into SMart. The readers of Capital Gay, the London weekly newspaper, turned on fellow performer Berkley, who had played the victim, and Barbara and Bowery weathered the storm."

Why was 'Berkley' turned on by the readers of Capital Gay? Was it to do with the Nazi theme? Questions left unanswered. Bad article to an interesting guy. Irisismykid (talk) 23:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Deserves a better article
this article about Leigh Bowery is delightful. However, it is obvious that it was written by one of his friends. That is such a shame, he revultionised my idea of what is art when i was a teenager. He deserves a better article than this, but I don' feel that i can really edit it. 86.129.64.185 06:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Let's assume good faith about the editors who added content that wasn't there before. You are welcome to make changes, even small corrections help! Banje boi  21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Image
Resolved. It'd be great if someone could add some (or any) information about Leigh.gif, since the submitter completely neglected to. Burpen 04:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

New Romantic error
Whoever wrote this knows little to nothing about Leigh Bowery and are really just trying to romanticise him as opposed to writing a good article. It's evident in the first paragraph which says something to the extent of "he read and dreamed about the New Romantic movement in London". Leigh Bowery moved to London in the late 70's/early 80's when New Romantic was actually going on, well in the 70's it hadn't even started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.205.226 (talk) 05:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a horrible, horrible article. I mean really, he wasn't a New Romantic?  Funny that he calls himself a New Romantic in the documentary The Legend of Leigh Bowery that the author of this disaster has plagarized more than once.  Also how did Leigh Bowery inspire Vivienne Westwood when she was designing Avant-Garde fashion nearly a decade before Bowery moved to London?  Also, what about some of the more negative aspects of Leigh Bowery's life; like the fact he continued engaging in unprotected sex even after learning he was HIV+?  I believe Leigh Bowery deserves a Wikipedia entry 100%, but something that is encyclopedic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.203.208 (talk) 04:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. This is just awful. "London at this time was depressingly dull and grey."?? Has the writer never seen an encyclopedia before? I have barely heard of this person, so I was looking for actual information, not a tribute.71.63.15.156 (talk) 21:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Without sounding too harsh ... so fix it ...

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 * Okay I'm a bit new here on Wiki but if you have not seen any of Vivienne Westwood's design that so obviously smack of Leigh Bowery's work then you're just not looking. I nicked a series photos off the net last year of images of her runway shows that floored me at how obvious it was that this was Leigh’s Influence on her. The talented Designer Ms. Westwood is. I had to take a real close look at all of this because I knew that she had been around long before Leigh. SO at first I was sort of confussed. But Hey even younger Artists can enfluence older ones. Look at Nine Inch Nails and David Bowie. I was quite pleased with her work. From the Make up she's used in runway shows that was obviously influenced by Leigh from the era he was with Trojan to suptle fashionings in combonation with her stylings wich made many an eye turning statement.
 * Does Wiki mean moral Police? By The way the last time I checked, Some ones HIV Status and practise of safe OR unprotected sex does not make them an undesireable Encyclopiedia topic or does not make them a non lagitamite Artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feile Case (talk • contribs) 14:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless Vivienne Westwood explicitly says "Leigh Bowery inspired this look or that look," you can't cite him as an influence. The fact is if you look at both designers collections, yes Leigh Bowery designed clothes for the masses another fact the article seems to be missing, it's almost stunning how much they're alike.  And these aren't collections that are YEARS apart, these are collections that were shown within the same year.  Vivienne Westwood did Punkature and Leigh Bowery did Hobos, Vivienne Westwood did Spot and Star prints all over her Mini Crini Collection, and Rachael Auburn and Leigh Bowery used Spots and Stars all over their Spend, Spend, Spend collection.  Look at the make-up Jordan, Westwood's earliest model, wore in the 70's.  Hmmm a cubist face, isn't that alot like Leigh Bowery and Trojan's Picasso looks?  And yes Leigh Bowery engaging in unprotected sex when he was well aware he was HIV+ is notable, just like Michael Alig murdering Angel Melindez is notable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.207.144 (talk) 08:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Sections
Article needs sections to be added so to get the ball rolling I suggest the following:


 * Early life
 * Move to London
 * Career
 * Club kids, three _____
 * Fashion designer
 * Club promoter
 * Modeling
 * Minty
 * Taboo musical

Anyone have other ideas or comments? Banje b oi  08:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it could be boiled down to a couple of lines: Leigh Bowery was a fat Australian pooftah that liked dressing up. And then he died.

What more do you want?


 * That's a good idea, where would be the appropriate place to mention the Spend, Spend, Spend boutique he did with Rachael Auburn? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.63.200.243 (talk) 21:45, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

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removing "he was a renowned legend"....PurpleChez (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)