Talk:Lekë Dushmani

Irene
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 * Dushmani's daughter Irene was the cause of a feud between Lekë Dukagjini and Lekë Zaharia, whose death in 1447 led to the Albanian-Venetian war.

I found numerous sources which show that Nikola Dukagjin, Leka's vassal, killed Leka Zakaria in 1444.


 * Here is source written by Oliver Schmitt who explains that there is an official Venetian documents from January 1445 presenting Zaharia's wife Bozha as widow submitting a document made in 1443 for her pension purposes (In ein Aktenstück von Januar 1445 inseriert ist eine Urkunde des Skutariner Grafen Francesco Querini vom 18. Septembar 1443, in der Lekas witwe Bozha, seiner Tochter Bolja und derren sohnchen Koja einge Dorfer aus Lekas baština und eine pension...). This information is supported by historian Ivan Božić who also claim that Venetian Senate confirmed inheritance of Zaharija's widow in January 1445.page 365
 * Ivan Božić further explains that Marin Barleti spins his tale about one beautiful girl being a cause for the conflict between Leke Zaharia and Leke Dukagjin. He also explains that on 18 and 19 September 1444 Venetian governor of Scutari issued a charter to people who are meritorious for Dagnum being handed over to Venetian Republic. Therefore, he concludes, Leke Zaharia was killed in August or beginning of September 1444.
 * Here is source written by Oliver Schmitt who explains that there is an official Venetian documents from January 1445 presenting Zaharia's wife Bozha as widow submitting a document made in 1443 for her pension purposes (In ein Aktenstück von Januar 1445 inseriert ist eine Urkunde des Skutariner Grafen Francesco Querini vom 18. Septembar 1443, in der Lekas witwe Bozha, seiner Tochter Bolja und derren sohnchen Koja einge Dorfer aus Lekas baština und eine pension...). This information is supported by historian Ivan Božić who also claim that Venetian Senate confirmed inheritance of Zaharija's widow in January 1445.page 365
 * Ivan Božić further explains that Marin Barleti spins his tale about one beautiful girl being a cause for the conflict between Leke Zaharia and Leke Dukagjin. He also explains that on 18 and 19 September 1444 Venetian governor of Scutari issued a charter to people who are meritorious for Dagnum being handed over to Venetian Republic. Therefore, he concludes, Leke Zaharia was killed in August or beginning of September 1444.
 * Here is source written by Oliver Schmitt who explains that there is an official Venetian documents from January 1445 presenting Zaharia's wife Bozha as widow submitting a document made in 1443 for her pension purposes (In ein Aktenstück von Januar 1445 inseriert ist eine Urkunde des Skutariner Grafen Francesco Querini vom 18. Septembar 1443, in der Lekas witwe Bozha, seiner Tochter Bolja und derren sohnchen Koja einge Dorfer aus Lekas baština und eine pension...). This information is supported by historian Ivan Božić who also claim that Venetian Senate confirmed inheritance of Zaharija's widow in January 1445.page 365
 * Ivan Božić further explains that Marin Barleti spins his tale about one beautiful girl being a cause for the conflict between Leke Zaharia and Leke Dukagjin. He also explains that on 18 and 19 September 1444 Venetian governor of Scutari issued a charter to people who are meritorious for Dagnum being handed over to Venetian Republic. Therefore, he concludes, Leke Zaharia was killed in August or beginning of September 1444.
 * Ivan Božić further explains that Marin Barleti spins his tale about one beautiful girl being a cause for the conflict between Leke Zaharia and Leke Dukagjin. He also explains that on 18 and 19 September 1444 Venetian governor of Scutari issued a charter to people who are meritorious for Dagnum being handed over to Venetian Republic. Therefore, he concludes, Leke Zaharia was killed in August or beginning of September 1444.

Based on the above mentioned sources I will remove information about Irene causing a war because it is based on forgery of Marin Barleti which is refuted by Stefano Magno and many modern scholars based on the original documents.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 September 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. This is essentially a revert to the long-standing name for this article, which was reverted to the current title (perhaps by mistake) in August. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE  03:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Lekë Dushman → Lekë Dushmani – More common (and correct) name. Djks1 (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC) Google books results:
 * "Lekë Dushman", 2 results (current name)
 * "Lekë Dushmani", 252 results (previous name)
 * "Lek Dushmani", 168 results
 * "Lek Dushman", 61 results
 * "Leccas Dusmanus", 69 results
 * "Leccha Dusmanus", 7 results
 * "Lek Dusman", 0 results
 * "Luka Dusman", "Luka Dushman", and "Luka Dushmani" also produce 0 results.

Therefore, I propose moving the page back to Lekë Dushmani.Djks1 (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support Move per nomination  Bes-ART Talk  10:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)