Talk:Lemon & Paeroa

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L& P is not uncoloured!!!!!!. By my last check it was a browny yellow colour :-)

I'm not sure the statements about L&P's availability are entirely accurate. For some reason I managed to get one out of a Coffs Harbour Base hospital cold drinks machine in mid 2007. Perhaps it's becoming more widely available. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.201.159 (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Dubious statement
The statement The paradoxical advertising slogan "World famous in New Zealand" has become a popular New Zealand saying meaning very well known locally, but not receiving the recognition it deserves overseas is very dubious and, unless a reference can be provided, which i doubt it can, this statement has no founding and must be removed. Taifar ious1   06:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I find this is exactly what the phase is used for, often in response to a FOB Kiwi's surprise that their favourite brand is not available in the rest of the world. As in "I think you might find that Watties tomato sauce / Hokey Pokey icecream / K-bars are 'World famous in New Zealand' mate!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.32.215.11 (talk) 10:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Availability
L&P is actually available in quite a number of supermarkets, convenience stores, and petrol/service stations - not just in NZ speciality stores. Someone should amend this part of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.205.95 (talk) 06:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I disagree with the interpretation of the author re 'world famous in NZ'. Recommend that a marketing-related source of the phrase be found which clearly explains the meaning with respect to L&P.195.75.244.91 (talk) 12:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)Brian

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Ingredients
L&P is definitely not just lemon and fizzy mineral water, it doesn't taste like lemonade. So there must be another ingredient, which I think Coca Cola claims is "secret". I don't know if anyone else has an idea, but my personal theory is that it's manuka extract (I have searched google and can't find any debate about it). If you've made fresh manuka tea (with sugar though), there's definitely something reminiscent about the taste. Re: the debate on "world famous in New Zealand", I agree with the article, that's my understanding of the phrase - I certainly can't see how it's "very dubious". I'd be interested in hearing suggestions on what else it might mean though. Miasmic (talk) 23:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tastes like Mt. Dew to me. The Diet version tastes like nothing i've had before, Not really good, more like fizzy water. --Saranis1 (talk) 04:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It has a vague sasparila-like aftertaste. Plasmic Physics (talk) 05:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Merge proposal
I propose merging World famous in New Zealand into Lemon & Paeroa. Article doesn't demonstrate that it has a widespread enough usage outside of L&P marketing to have its own article. This article also has a bit of a dubious claim, "'World famous in New Zealand' has become a popular New Zealand saying" (which is unsourced). I've lived in New Zealand my entire life and have never heard someone use this phrase. Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply
 * Oppose. The phrase has gone well beyond its L&P origins and is widely used here in New Zealand. I'm surprised that you've never heard it. It's been used, for example, as the title of a book about New Zealand business successes, as a compilation album of New Zealand rock bands, and as the https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4963514/ title of an episode of a TV show], as well as being used by the media (and again), businesses, and lopcal government, as well as other food and drink (see para 3). Many New Zealanders know the phrase but don't realise its original connection to L&P, so merging is not the best option for that reason, either. Grutness...  wha?   03:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. When I lived in New Zealand I heard locals use the "World Famous in New Zealand" phrase, sometimes in relation to L&P but to other topics as well. --Roisterer (talk) 04:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Support: The article is so small that it can easily be a sectin of the L&P article. --Spekkios (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I have heard the expression "World famous in New Zealand" being used in variety of contexts, and the evidence presented by Grutness backs this up. The separate article is worth keeping.Marshelec (talk) 23:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I support reasons given above by Grutness and Marshelec. I've added titles of books using the phrase to the article. --Gertrude206 (talk) 23:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)