Talk:Lenin (1916 icebreaker)

When did she became Lenin?
Myers says:
 * Saint Alexander Nevsky (renamed Lenin) 3,375 gross tonnage. Yard number A/W 905. Completed June 1917. This is also confirmed by an eye-witness in G. Fischer’s memoirs V Rossii i v Anglii, Moscow, 1922, pp 94-5. The vessel was commandeered by the Royal Navy, renamed H.M.S. Alexander, and sent to assist the allied intervention against the Bolsheviks. On 10 July 1918, by a supreme irony, H.M.S. Alexander came face to face with the heavily-armed Sviatogor on the Northern Dvina at Archangel, though conflict was avoided on this occasion. On the departure of the allied forces in 1919, Alexander was handed over to the White Russian forces.

So did she go Newcastle (June 1917) -> Tsarist "Saint Alexander Nevsky" -> Royal Navy (HMS Alexander) -> White Russian (1919) -> Soviet Navy "Lenin"? Was it Sovietized in 1917? How and when did the Royal Navy captured her? When did she was captured by the Soviets from the White Russians? --84.20.17.84 (talk) 12:16, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My interpretation of Myers is that the ship was completed in June 1917 in a British shipyard, and the British government immediately took control of her instead of allowing her to be delivered to the Russian Empire or the Bolsheviks. (No military force was used.) The details of this decision would be fascinating to know. The article doesn't mention any of this. --Jtir (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

propose renaming to Lenin (icebreaker)
Lenin (icebreaker) would be consistent with Krasin (icebreaker) and Lenin (nuclear icebreaker). Lenin (icebreaker) is currently a redirect to here. --Jtir (talk) 17:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Renamed and relinked. These names may not conform to Naming conventions (ships). --Jtir (talk) 17:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

30 June 2016 move
Move following consensus after this talk as per WP:NCS. --Robertiki (talk) 09:19, 1 July 2016 (UTC)