Talk:Leofwine, Ealdorman of the Hwicce

Sons?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s032/f145142.htm shows two sons: Leofric and Godwin. This article claims only Leofric. Who's right? 82.36.26.229 11:46, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The article on Leofric mentions three brothers. Updated. Havard 20:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * That said, I wouldn't trust anything off rootsweb.com without others sources... Havard 21:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Ealdorman of Hwicce? or Earl of Mercia
Needs some references to Leofwine as Ealdorman of Hwicce. Was he even Earl/ealdorman of Mercia? Havard 22:21, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

"Earl" was a title created by Cnut who organised the ealdormanries (is that a proper word?) into the earldoms of Wessex, Mercia, East Anglia, York, Northumberland and Kent after 1015. Prior to that Eadric Streona had been Ealdorman of Mercia. Before him it was vacant and before that it was held by Aethelric, so it is difficult to see how Leofwine could have been Earl of Mercia at all. After Eadric Streona's death, Leofric became Earl of Mercia.Streona (talk) 15:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)