Talk:Leopard (heraldry)

let the French keep it
I've never come across the terms lioned leopard and leoparded lion in English. Have you? &mdash;Tamfang 05:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Other examples
Worth mentioning Normandy? Or Wales? or are these lions? --Henrygb 01:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Tongue-firmly-in-cheek mode: They look like leopards. Suedois 20:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * PS funny to think that some English call their logo as lion, when they should be calling it leopard. Nice to think about famous "three leopards of England". Of course neither is an indigeneous animal there. Suedois 20:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * How do you tell the difference? —Tamfang 05:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

change in use
In English, leopard now refers to the natural animal, that is Panthera pardus. 71.194.44.209 (talk) 16:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge or split?
While I would agree that this article as it currently exists needs a complete rewrite, I don't think simply deleting it is the best approach. It duplicates (poorly) part of the content of Lion (heraldry) (see the section Lions vs. Leopards), and I can vouch that the term leopard does appear in Anglophonic heraldry, though its precise meaning was sometimes unclear and has changed over the years. I would like to see Wikipedia's coverage of this particular subject expanded and clarified, using high quality reliable sources, and I see two ways to accomplish this: 1) to merge this article into a section within the Lion (heraldry) article and leave a redirect from here to there; 2) to split the leopard information from that article to this one, leaving a "main article" hatnote in that section to lead readers to this article. The first approach may be the easiest and most appropriate at this time, but I think the latter would better serve the reader in the long term (imho). This would allow inclusion of actual examples from historical rolls, along with a full explanation of the term's evolution throughout heraldic history, without further bogging down the lion article. Wilhelm Meis (&#9742; Diskuss &#124; &#x270D; Beiträge) 04:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not sure there is very much information on this topic. Although, the current usage of the word is quite clear. The only authority that refers to lion passant guardant as leopards is the Canadian Heraldic Authority, and it only does it in the French section of its bilingual grants. Tinynanorobots (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2012 (UTC)