Talk:Leotard

[[Image:Ska naru leotard.jpg]]
User:The Anome has now removed Image:Ska_naru_leotard.jpg twice, calling it "inappropriate". However, it seems like a perfectly good image of a leotard, with the Kigurumi aspect of it not getting in the way of portraying the garment. I'm going to restore it again, but please let's discuss the matter here further. I'm not wedded to this image in particular, but since that's the image we happen to have of someone wearing a leotard it seems ridiculous not to use it. Bryan 17:58, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't like the image as well, but as long as we don't have a better one, let this stay. Paranoid 20:28, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * From my POV, the Kirigumi aspect of the image overwhelms all else, distracting the reader from the topic of the article. Besides the fact that I really don't like this image: very similar Kirigumi images have been placed into a number of articles where their relevance is similarly tangential. To take this to reductio ad absurdam: if this picture is relevant here, why not in "human" (it depicts a human), "textile" (the leotard's surface is made out of a textile), "mask", "curtain" (there's one in the background), "hand", "wig", "condensed matter" and so on.... Clearly, to do all of these would be ludicrous, even though the picture contains clear visual representations of every one of these.


 * Please, can someone download a picture of a person wearing a leotard in a more typical context such as dance, yoga, circus or gymnastics, so we can stop arguing about this? -- The Anome 22:08, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Not to mention that the reader is distracted by trying to guess if the person in the costume is male or female... The Anome 22:11, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Perhaps an out-of-copyright image of M. Leotard wearing his costume could illustrate two articles for the price of one image? -- The Anome 22:22, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Sounds fine to me. As long as this IMO perfectly-fine image of a leotard is replaced by another IMO perfectly-fine image of a leotard I've got no basis for complaint. :) Bryan 05:22, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Image replaced by the one provided by Viruswitch, then. Snowflake Sans Crainte 00:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. -- The Anome 08:35, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * I have uploaded an image that might be better. Check it out.



Viruswitch 02:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Underwear section
I can see this one either way. I don't think it detracts from the article. I do wonder about its relevance, but not enough to have deleted it myself. -- Jay Maynard 01:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe it detracts from the article for the following reasons reasons:
 * It has no actual relevance to the subject matter
 * It states that "leotards are worn with or without ... depending on the circumstances", thus underlying its unnecessary mention - do we also need a section on shoes sometimes being worn? How about tracksuits sometimes being worn over the top of leotards?);
 * It lists several points (e.g. dancers belts, menstruation) that really don't need discussing in an article about leotards.
 * All comments within this section are questionable at best and entirely unsourced.
 * --Zoe.R 12:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Media Selection
Is the bunch of movies listed in this article really required? At least one of the movies listed (WarGames), only contains a character in a leotard for less then a minute of screen time. Also many of the movies listed are based around gymnastics. Isn't it expected to find leotards in a movie about gymnasts?

It seems like who ever wrote that selection has a fetish for leotards as it lists the actresses as well, which isn't needed or required for the article. Could we get it cleaned up? - 202.180.71.20 09:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've been wondering about this for a while. To be honest, I think it's superfluous and could be removed without detracting from the article.  --Zoe.R 19:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've decided to be bold and remove it. - 202.180.71.20 07:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture
Why is the woman in the picture wearing a thong over a leotard? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.246.217 (talk) 23:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Men's Leotards
The section on men's leotards has now been removed three times by IPs. I've replaced it twice, and am now bringing it here to avoid an edit war. Comments? Personally, I think it needs to return both because of the historical information and because, despite that one person's disdain for what he sees as fetishism, it's actually both factual and useful information. -- Jay Maynard (talk) 20:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I would hardly call that fetish fuel since all it really returns is about 3 simple facts. I am surprised that person doesn't try and say the whole article is a fetish. I would say they are just paranoid. 125.239.110.19 (talk) 10:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merge
I propose that uniform (gymnastics) is merged to this article. The article seems to be primarily about leotards. The little material here about how to wear one's hair and such could be merged to the artistic gymnastics article. The article uniform (gymnastics) has no interwiki links, the article leotard has several, and even the French article fr:Justaucorps has a section specifically about usage in artistic gymnastics. Also as noted in the talk page, no other sport has an article specifically about its uniforms. J I P &#124; Talk 04:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * By looking at that the other article, as of now, was just replaced with a redirect. Not merged. Or in other words: Deleted.--Tobias &#34;ToMar&#34; Maier (talk) 18:51, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Request received to merge articles: Jules Léotard into Leotard; dated June 2016. Discussion here. Richard3120 (talk) 00:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The person had a life distinct from the garment, the garment has an existence distinct from the person. bd2412  T 01:44, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Reason for deleting the pictures was?
Hello dear Wikipedians,

For the picture and the explanation of Tobias "ToMar" Maier I understand it, but the other photos were human and showed just modern versions of the leotard. Or does it have something to do with the fact that in general, gymnasts wear a gymnastics over the leotard?

Now, if we were to begin the discussion of equality, this would now be too far off and would not serve the purpose. I would be anyway for either wearing a gym or none.

Best regards

Jürgen Funke

Ps. In the future, I would be very pleased, if one receives a reason, for a rescission of the processing of a contribution.

--Gayboy Jürgen (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Correct the caption of the first photo
An image of Jules Léotard in the garment that bears his name. His genitalia are visibly drifting in an unhealthy position.


 * https://www.google.com/search?q=leotard+testicular+pressure — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:4116:6000:C4EE:C643:B0E6:1466 (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2019 (UTC)