Talk:Let's Go Brandon/Archive 2

I'm pretty sure I heard this at AEW Winter Is Coming 2021
I think during the match between Danielson and Page, the crowd started to chant "Let's Go Brandon". Is there anyway to prove this/include this since it was a 'noteable' event?The Greatest Wiki Dude who ever lived. (talk) 16:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:RS. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, ok, since there are no reliable sources reporting on this (but you can clearly hear them), I believe Winter Is Coming might just have to be excluded from the list.The Greatest Wiki Dude who ever lived. (talk) 16:40, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2022
The article makes the following statement “The phrase quickly spread to popular culture, with rap songs using the phrase placing high on record charts.”

I’d like to point out that there have been zero instances of rap songs on US or foreign record charts that have included the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon” in the lyrics.

The articles makes the following statement “ 2603:7000:B900:26E:B8C4:109A:194C:57D1 (talk) 14:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This has been explained to you in the past, several times. In the future I will remove these requests as disruptive duplicates. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Misidentification
The article misidentifies Wyoming as a Northern state. It is a Western state. The Associated Press & other editorial authorities identify Wyoming (and thereby the University of Wyoming) as geographically located in the American West, regionally. Ericadamslives (talk) 00:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

I tried to edit the article to correct it. Presently it says “northern universities … including Wyoming” and this should be corrected to identify Wyoming as a Western state. States west of the Mississippi River have historically been identified as Western, Southwestern, or of the Northwest or colloquially as Pacific Northwest when identifying local species. Ericadamslives (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Fixed.Outdatedpizza (talk) 03:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2022
The definition SNAFU in the usage section of the article is not the actual definition which is confused or chaotic. Reading the article otherwise it seems unbiased and only focuses on facts and actual events. From what I see that single part is being worded based on political bias which isn't what most open minded readers come to for. I just think that one sentence that didn't come from any reputable dictionary be removed. 2600:100A:B1D5:1C5D:35AB:B067:A58F:48B1 (talk) 22:37, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as the use of "SNAFU" in this instance refers to the tone of the euphemism (which also cites John McWhorter) and is not politically biased. Padgriffin  Griffin's Nest 09:26, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Dark Brandon
There probably should be a section about this related meme:


 * "Dark Brandon" Is the Malevolent Kind of Biden We Need (MEL Magazine)
 * What is Dark Brandon? Meme of Evil Joe Biden Takes Internet by Storm (Newsweek)
 * The Week "Dark Brandon" Died (Slate)
 * Dark Brandon is the liberal meme counter to the Let's Go Brandon movement (The Daily Dot)
 * "Dark Brandon" is the one meme that Biden supporters can finally embrace (Indy100)

Kleinpecan (talk) 09:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion for improvement
The first sentence of the article is this:

"A "Let's Go Brandon" sign outside of a Florida residence "Let's Go Brandon" is a political slogan and Internet meme that has been used as a minced oath for "Fuck Joe Biden", in reference to Joe Biden, the 46th and current president of the United States."

The phrase "used as a minced oath for "Fuck Joe Biden" might be accurate, but it is overwhelmingly less clear than something like this:


 * "used as a substitute for the profane phrase "Fuck Joe Biden".

My points are two:

1. Almost no reader will understand what a "minced oath" is;

2. The phrase "Fuck Joe Biden" has nothing to do with an "oath", which is a word that arose to describe phrases like "God dammn it." 2601:200:C000:1A0:59C8:3F03:54BB:C453 (talk) 00:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You make a good point. I struggled with that reading also. GenQuest  "scribble" 01:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2022
"The phrase quickly spread to popular culture, with rap songs using the phrase placing high on record charts." - citation needed Phatriik (talk) 16:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The citation is in the body, per WP:LEADCITE. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Rewrite the /*Others*/ paragraph
Hi. Can somebody rephrase this statement "and met Brandon Brown." with "and later met Brandon Brown." or something else which is grammatically correct? Also, majority of the sources, including CNN and Today, claim that Brandon Brundidge was then nine years old, not eight.197.238.142.88 (talk) 13:22, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe he was 8 when he saw the sign and 9 when he met the driver? I'm not sure but the source used says 8. I did tweak it a little bit per your notes. Some would say this whole paragraph isn't even noteworthy but I think it is interesting and properly sourced.Outdatedpizza (talk) 00:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your contributions. According to one YouTube video uploaded on 26 July 2022 by Fronstretch, this is what Brandon Brown said in the tenth minute. Even Houston Chronicle can confirm this on 10 August 2022. Otherwise, if his age is still in doubt to date then there is no use of specifying it in the first place. Anyways, happy Let's Go Brandon Day's first anniversary.197.240.120.147 (talk) 11:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Jared Schmeck
A random guy got onto a Christmas call-in program hosted by Joe Biden and managed to say "Let's go Brandon" to the president, and then Biden bizarrely responded with "Let's go Brandon, I agree." Sounds like a silly one-day news story, but, this being the modern world we live in, the media had to investigate the matter and got his name (Jared Schmeck), and interviewed him, and during several interviews he then gave conflicting answers about his motivations. Was he lying the first time, the second time, or both? Who cares? I don't think anything about him is relevant to this article, or encyclopedic at all, other than the fact that he said "Let's go Brandon" to the president - and maybe not even that. I think at least these few sentences should be removed. Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 13:49, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of "who cares" as a reason to exclude information from the article. The only reason to exclude information is failure to satisfy WP:NOTABILITY. The information that you deem "not relevant" is not about Jared Schmeck. The information is about what he claimed to be his reasoning for saying the slogan to the President of the United States. So if saying "Let's go Brandon" to the president is notable enough for inclusion in the article (which I haven't seen anybody challenge), then the backstory for the reasoning behind should also be notable enough for inclusion. Banana Republic (talk) 17:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)


 * That's not necessarily true at all. His actions are notable because he interacted with the president (who interacted back). His motivations are not notable because they're just his personal opinions - and we don't even know his real motivations, because he's said contradictory things. And I'd say his name is not needed or either. Does this article list the name - or motivations - of any of the people described as selling "Let's Go Brandon" merchandise, for example? Would the article be improved if it did? Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 18:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to be pedantic, notability guidelines do not apply to content within articles. I think the policy you're looking for here is WP:DUE. (Also, FWIW, I agree that the removed content was excessively detailed. I'm fine with removing it entirely, but I also wouldn't mind replacing it with a one-sentence summary instead.) Colin M (talk) 18:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If his actions are notable, then his motivations for his actions are notable, especially if quoted by WP:SECONDARY WP:RS. This is even more true when what he says were his motivations changed over time. But I'd be fine with summarizing them rather than verbatim quoting Schmeck. Banana Republic (talk) 18:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * What if he gave three more interviews to the press, each time offering a different motivation? Would we forced to quote all of them, since, as you say, that makes his statements even more notable? Or could we dismiss them all as the random musings of a random person? Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No, if he gave additional interviews that contradict each other, we can just say that he gave five interviews and how the different interviews contradict each other. Banana Republic (talk) 20:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * So that's a yes, then - some rando manages to prank call the president and suddenly his name, occupation and all future utterances are noteworthy. I think that's silly, but I'd like to hear if anyone else has an opinion on this. Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 20:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The noteworthy aspect of the Schmeck incident is this: While participating in the annual White House NORAD Santa-tracking event with his wife and handler, Jill Biden, the President of the United States, Joe Biden, was so unaware of--and mentally detached from--ongoing current events he immediately replied to Schmeck, "Let's go Brandon, I agree." Schmeck is noteworthy in that he helped reveal Joe Biden's high level of cognitive impairment (which has been reinforced by Biden staffers shouting down the press and spiriting Biden out of the room at numerous events in the past, and recently by an agenda note card Biden had during the Federal-State Offshore Wind Implementation Partnership on Thursday, June 23, 2022 with specific instructions as to each and every action he should take during the meeting).
 * SOURCES:
 * December 24, 2021 Santa Tracker (originally reported by AP, article moved):
 * https://www.newsweek.com/president-biden-trolled-lets-go-brandon-santa-tracking-broadcast-1663074
 * https://www.the-sun.com/news/4335866/joe-biden-says-lets-go-brandon-christmas-call/
 * White House aides set up system to shield President Biden from unscripted interviews due to worries over his cognitive ability:
 * Woodward, B, Costa, C. Peril. New York, NY(USA). Simon & Schuster; 2021.
 * Joe Biden accidentally reveals cheat sheet reminding him to 'take YOUR seat', 'YOU give brief comments (2 minutes)' and 'YOU depart' at meeting with wind-industry executives
 * https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10948305/Joe-Biden-accidentally-reveals-awkward-cheat-sheet-reminding-seat-two-minute-responses.html 24.56.117.200 (talk) 01:17, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * "I'm not aware of 'who cares' as a reason to exclude information from the article."
 * Exactly to the contrary, the value of an article in Wikipedia is that readers appreciate having read it, or in other words, they care.
 * And if nobody cares about a certain (true) piece of information that could be included in an article, that is the best of all possible reasons to exclude it. 2601:200:C000:1A0:59C8:3F03:54BB:C453 (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

What cognitive impairment? If there is a publicly-released diagnosis, let's hear it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.188.108.204 (talk) 20:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

High-level profanity should not appear in Google search results when searching for a minced oath
Especially a word like "fuck" or "pussy" should not appear in the result. I would say differently if it were a word like "hell" or "damn," but searching up Let's Go Brandon (a telivised phrase) should not direct to "Fuck Joe Biden." 2600:6C50:4000:27D0:C0B4:F60D:D7F7:48D6 (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * And besides, there is a children's book out there based entirely on this codephrase. "Brandon Spots His Sign" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:4000:27D0:C0B4:F60D:D7F7:48D6 (talk) 01:02, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * May I direct you to WP:NOTCENSORED. : 3 F4U (they/it) 05:36, 17 March 2023 (UTC)