Talk:Let's Kill Hitler

Continuity WAY too much
This continuity is far far far too long, exceeding the plot itself. I know there's a lot of connections to the past episodes, but lets remember, we need to work these articles in an out-of-universe fashion. Some of this stuff likely can fall into the series arc aspects. Really, unless its obvious or sourced by a third-party, we shouldn't be including it. --M ASEM (t) 05:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've removed a little: the thing about the sonic cane having the same abilities as the screwdriver (not continuity at all) and about River going "backwards" where supposedly she looks subtly older--total OR. Glimmer721  talk  17:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ...Okay, so maybe the ageing thing was not completely OR--it's mentioned in this review, but I still don't think it's relative to the overal continuity. Glimmer721  talk  18:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What I do think is continuity is that River says "Hello sweety" for the first time in her timeline to The Doctor in the end. LOTG (talk) 10:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think people tend to mis-understand what the continuity section is for. The most blatant piece of continuity in the ep, ie. the Doctor's new coat, hasn't even gone near the section since broadcast, and yet we get such a deluge of over-complex and/or OR rubbish. U-Mos (talk) 00:01, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Is a change of outfit really that significant? I realize that the Doctor's outfit is nearly a universal constant, but wearing on type of trenchcoat over another type seems nitpicky. Of course, if the change is noted by sources, then by all means... --M ASEM  (t) 00:33, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * In terms of it being an on-going element of the series, I'd say it certainly is. It's a major costume difference, not just (for instance) the blue shirt that debuted earlier this year, and is akin to the alterations of the fourth doc's costumes which are noted in The Android Invasion and Destiny of the Daleks. U-Mos (talk) 11:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

What did the Doctor whisper?
I think the last point under "continuity" should be removed as OR, because we don't actually know what the Doctor said to Melody/River. He could have just been telling her how much he loved her or something... Until we know for sure this is when the Doctor told her his real name I think it should be removed. 210.48.101.90 (talk) 06:48, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been removed. --Ebyabe (talk) 23:08, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistency in the article

 * the Tesselecta (?) is spelled in various ways, one or two s.. 83.163.5.82 (talk) 22:19, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd think it should be spelled one way. But different sources are spelling it differently. It seems the "one s" version is more common. Thoughts? --Ebyabe (talk) 23:07, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * BBC Spell it this way. Teselecta. Therefore the article should be one S not two. Globalwheels (talk) 10:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Crop circle...
I was going to give the plot a grammar boost and improve the clarity, but I have a question. The first sentence reads: "In modern-day Leadsworth, Amy and Rory create a crop circle to gain the Doctor's attention." Now, the impression I got was that the crop circle was always there; Amy and Rory just drove around it to make it the "O" in "Doctor". Or did I misinterpret this? Glimmer721 talk  00:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just watched, and it showed them crossing over paths, not just driving around in a circle. Obvious interpretation is they were responsible for it all. --M ASEM (t) 01:39, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * My interpretation of this "crossing over paths" is consistent with what Glimmer says. The crop circle was there before Amy and Rory appeared on the scene and their driving created the other letters, which together with the circle, spelled "doctor". Mels then created the line through the word. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 02:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Hotel Adlon
Was this place ever named in the episode or Confidential, or has someone just decided it is it? Mezigue (talk) 09:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a good spot on someone's part, for the hotel name is indeed visible on-screen. U-Mos (talk) 12:01, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Series opener...?
Okay, this technically a mid-series opener, correct? It's not the beginning of the series. The Mirror reported that its ratings (6.2 million, which SFX said was good for a BBC drama, and IGN said theywere solid) were the lowest for a "series opener". So I suppose that's not an article to quote in the "Broadcast" section, correct? I'm not British so I'm not familar with The Mirror, but it seems their reporting is quite sarcastic. Honestly, in a few years I'm sure no one will care about ratings anymore, because it is so easy to record it and watch it when more accessible or watch it on the iPlayer, which I would do if I lived in the UK and the show was on at 6 or 7 o'clock. Glimmer721 talk  22:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Ontological Paradoxes
The first paragraph of the Continuity section points out " ontological paradoxes", yet The Doctor giving River her blue Tardis notebook is not an ontological paradox. It looks brand new, as if he just popped out and bought it somewhere (special-order, I would guess) and gave it to her as a gift. While he would not have known to give it to her had he not seen it in his past/her future, the object itself is not an ontological paradox; he did not give her the object from the future. The episode simply reveals where she did get it in the first place. I think it is a worthwhile continuity item, as the notebook figures is all of the River Song episodes, but in the wrong place. Actually, looking back at the paragraph, the only true paradox is the naming of Melody after herself. Therefore, "... several of which include ontological paradoxes" should be removed and instead the sentence "Mels' name would be used in turn by Amy to name her daughter." should be changed to, "Mels' name would be used in turn by Amy to name her daughter, which is an ontological paradox." (This is the first time I've tried to edit, and I don't want change it unless someone else agrees.. *blush*) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samanthafine (talk • contribs) 21:32, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Its not the book itself (its creation and fate are known): its where the idea of the TARDIS book came from; its the same as the transcript from Blink. Same with the name River Song in this episode. --M ASEM  (t) 00:08, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Although technically they are not paradoxes, as they are perfectly acceptable in the block universe/B-theory of time travel. Glimmer721  talk  02:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Directed by...
Who is this Richard Senior? Aside from IMDb and a blog or two he doesn't really exist on the internet... Hearfourmewesique (talk) 03:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The BBC says he was the director of this episode: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0146h0q Ratemonth (talk) 03:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Whoops... my bad, I guess I've become a bit trigger happy over ninja style edits. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 03:50, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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